2024 Trade Deadline Speculation

There are serious doubts about whether Crawford will develop the power to be a good starting CF. And without some power it will be hard to get a 350+ OBP. That is part of Stott's problem now. The jury is still very much out on Crawford as it is with most prospects. Right now Rojas has very little power also. He chases pitches out of the zone and can't do much with pitches in the zone. Crawford has a better hit tool foundation than Rojas, but changing his swing to add power could subtract from other aspects of his game.

I’m mixed on trading Painter. On the one hand, his value is down because of the injury, though for a team that’s building that is less of an issue. On the other hand, if he never makes it back, we’ve wasted an asset.

Geez, not everyone is a Hall of Famer. Not everyone can be Joe Morgan either (Jimmy Rollins was pretty good as is).

Hitting for power and hitting for discipline are two very different things. It is what makes Bryce Harper great and Nick Castellanos merely average. It is not as if Nick is not trying as your comments imply, it is just hard to be good at both

It will be hard for Crawford too. The comments on this thread are about valuing Crawford as a prospect, not really whether he has a chance to make it. His evaluation now lacks power. That limits his trade value somewhat. He is still a valuable trade piece, just nowhere near as valuable as you imply. Robert is not my favorite trade target, but Crawford as the main piece coming back is probably a reasonable deal.

Jim Bowden floats a trade with the White Sox for Crochet and Robert for Crawford, Abel, Caba, Aldegheri and I would imagine a lesser prospect or two. That would be intriguing. Crochet would be a luxury, but a good one to have. If the Phillies did that, they could trade Sanchez in the offseason while his value is high to get back some prospects.

I might prefer the Randy Arozarena rumors. Mostly a LF defensively at this point and not a great one. Slightly down offensive year but 964 OPS in the last 28 days. Right-handed so would platoon with Marsh in LF and good enough offensively that he could play LF with Marsh in CF against right-handed pitching. $8.1 million salary with 2 years of arbitration left and Tampa not really wanting to pay $10+ million a year for him.

Figure the prospect cost for him would be mid-level. Yes that probably means someone like Klassen or Aldegheri. Same range as Winker but more years of control.

Never said I liked Robert as a fit at all. I am much more into fixing LF and reserving the option of moving Marsh to CF more if Rojas does not hit (and keeping either Rojas or Pache around for defense).

Randy A is a good one for something more than just a platoon bat, especially since Tampa wants to unload the future $. There's also Mark Canha as a rental alternative to Thomas.

And Finnegan, like Thomas, comes with a year of control. So those two together would probably be pretty costly too.

Wonder what will happen to Pache.

Canha should be really cheap I guess. Definitely on the down side of his career. He could almost be free prospect-wise if a team pays him the rest of the year. $11.5 million deal which is more than his prospect value at this point.

Damn Mason Miller to the DL with a broken hand. I don’t know if the A’s would’ve gotten a package big enough for him, but that takes a big chip off the table.

Randy A and a reunion with Zach Efflin perhaps? Thoughts?

I really don't think they are in on the starting pitchers. But choosing Walker over Eflin still hurts. Last year they were pretty equal and I really did think Zach would end up getting hurt again. But hard to imagine Walker winning that race over the three years (and losing it even more in the fourth).

I will say that it's kind of interesting that they probably want to go to a six-man on August 2 (the West Coast trip) but don't actually have six pitchers. In the Inquirer today Lauber said Walker is still a "few weeks" away and Turnbull looking at end of August.

So, Crochet doesn't have a no-trade clause, so he's using a possible innings limit to imply he wouldn't be that eager to join a contender and or go back to the bullpen. A little different from Spencer Turnbull. I don't blame him if he doesn't want to push it (he's already at 111 after pitching just 12 in '22 and '23 combined) but not sure a new contract is a reason to push it either (even if the argument is it insulates him from another injury).

Full trade, per ESPN sources:

Seattle Mariners receive: outfielder Randy Arozarena

Tampa Bay Rays receive: outfielder Aidan Smith, right-hander Brody Hopkins and a player to be named last.

— Jeff Passan ( @JeffPassan ) July 26, 2024

12 and 22 prospects in Seattle's system.

Full deal:

Arizona Diamondbacks receive: left-handed reliever A.J. Puk.

Miami Marlins receive: CIF Deyvison De Los Santos and CF Andrew Pintar.

Deal is done. Diamondbacks get the bullpen arm they've been seeking.

And trade season is officially on.

— Jeff Passan ( @JeffPassan ) July 26, 2024

De Lo Santos becomes the Marlins #4 prospect. Pintar #19

I might have done a similar first trade, but would never give up that much for Puk. Wow

Should have matched for Arozarena.

That seems like a pretty low price for Randy, but just goes to show you that's not what the Phillies are looking for. We've already heard that Pham might not be a good fit due to lack of playing time so could be a similar situation here.

And he was Nick-like for much of this season. In his case the control wasn't necessarily a plus.

Mariners are actually the team we think the Phillies are when things don't look good. Blew a nine game lead.