2022 Phillies Major League Regular Season Discussion

[zambonir]

For the team to get those incentives the prospect has to not only play, but play well. The Phillies are not getting anything from him being up, and won't, if he doesn't start playing every day and being one of the best rookies in the league.

He shouldn't be up at this point, and it's not about lack of SS depth. It goes back to their decision to move him to 3B. Bohm and Camargo have both earned the playing time there. At SS Didi hasn't really, but was getting it anyway, and now Camargo is ahead of Stott at SS too. Stott is in the Maton/Torreyes role - and even Maton was swapped for Torreyes last year so he could get more ABs!

[Philsmania]

In that case, Stott should most definitely go down and play every day at SS in AAA. None of this monkeying around with his position like with Kingery.

[zambonir]

It would be one thing if he was actually playing multiple positions - i.e. 3-4 starts a week all over the IF. He still may not be a SS in the long run, and playing multiple positions my simply be the reality (after all Camargo is doing it, and Segura has too). But he just has to play, period.

I don't think it will be long now. If not when Didi's ready to be back in the line-up than when they shuffle things around roster reduction (even though the extra spots are both pitchers).

[andyb]

It is kind of malpractice that Stott has barely seen the field while Didi was out. Camargo has big platoon splits and has always been better against LHP. The last week should have seen Bohm and Camargo start against LHP and the starts against right-handers should have probably had Stott and Camargo in the lineup when our starters is a ground ball pitcher (i.e. Suarez, Eflin) and Bohm in the lineup when we have a strikeout pitcher.

Just does not make sense that you don't get Stott a couple of starts when Didi is out.

This is what is frustrating. I have no problem sending Stott to the minors if he is not going to get any starts in the majors. Maton is better suited to the backup role because he is really not seen as a potential starter.

[Taudawg]

100% agree with everything said there.

[andyb]

Surprisingly JoJo Romero is the pitcher on the 60-day IL that seems closest to beginning his rehab assignment according to Zolecki. Emanuel and Coonrod are the others on the list and I guess that means the news on Coonrod is especially discouraging. Romero is about 11 months removed from TJ surgery.

[andyb]

Welcome back Roman Quinn. Stott to LHV. Sherriff to 60-day.

The Phillies have selected the contract of OF Roman Quinn from Lehigh Valley (AAA) and optioned INF Bryson Stott to LV. Additionally, LHP Ryan Sherriff was transferred to the 60-day IL.

— Philadelphia Phillies ( @Phillies ) April 25, 2022

It does leave them short on defensive subs with Didi hurt, though I guess this means Didi is probably healthy again and is not in the lineup tonight against a LHP.

[Austinfan]

Finally common sense prevails.

[andyb]

In hindsight they should never have put Stott on the team without a firm path for playing time. This is more about Didi than Camargo who would have been on the team regardless. Didi is a left-handed hitting shortstop. So unless they were going to have Didi shift to 3B, they really should not have put Stott on the team with a nebulous path to playing time at his proper position. Even the shift to 3B over Bohm against RHP was problematic if ideally you wanted Bohm to hit enough to play at least half the time.

This is for the best. Give it a month and see where both Stott and DIdi are, because I actually believe Stott is probably better than Didi now. Defensively and offensively by a small amount in each case. Over time this should show up.

[allentown]

In hindsight they should never have put Stott on the team without a firm path for playing time.

I think they should have had a firm plan for playing time and, with Didi out, Stott definitely should have played more. But, I think this experience of close to a month in MLB, with 30 AB, is a very valuable learning experience for Stott. He now has a visceral feel for where he needs to improve. With 10Ks in 30AB, significant improvement is needed. He has learned that in-season MLB, playing against guys who were good enough to make the MLB roster, is not only different from AA/AAA, it is different from what he experienced in major league ST. From more than 10% of his AB resulting in extra-base hits in AA, he had only 1 double in 30 ABs in MLB. It's a shock. Hopefully he has observed, and the hitting coach has explained, how MLB pitchers got him out and vitiated his power; now it's up to him to develop the skill to overcome those problems. This almost-month in MLB can/should jumpstart an almost year of accelerated development in Allentown.

[Philsmania]

Ryan Sheriff, I forgot all about that guy. Looks like I won't have much reason to remember him, either.

[andyb]

I think you are putting too much into what happened in 30 major league ABs. It is not fatal that he sat for much of a month, but it is a waste. I do discount the stats though. The sample size is way too small and this may be nothing more than a kid who had his confidence shattered with an 0-5 night with 5 Ks when he had the pressure of kind of knowing his manager would bury him on the bench after that outing.

It was a small error to put Stott on the major league roster but it was still an error. If they had just said he'll start against most RHP and play SS instead of Didi then everything was fine. But if we were going to retain Didi none of this was really destined to work. Stott has had one start since that bad game. And started 0 of 5 since Didi was out. I argued for more Bohm playing time of course, but I also would have been fine for a few games with Stott at SS and Camargo at 3B when Didi was out and a pitcher like Suarez was on the mound.

[bkeich]

Wasted a year of control of Stott. They added him to the 40 man a year before they needed to, now they have used an option that didn't need to be used.

DD is not doing a good job of controlling the future.

[andyb]

Wasted a year of control of Stott.

They get the year of control back after 3 weeks in the minors. And if there is any concern about Stott having to use all 3 option years it probably means he is not that good in the first place.

The only thing "wasted" is a 40-man spot used before they had to.

[LoneStarPhan]

Agree that Stott needed to go to AAA and get regular playing time. He should be fine and the ML experience may be of benefit. Also agree that using an option should be no problem if Stott turns out to be a major league regular as we expect. If not ready later this year, he should be making the ML roster by next year.

But of course, nothing is for sure.

[BostonRoss]

I’m in the “Stott should have started the season in Lehigh Valley “ camp. Having a good spring training is not a good enough reason to mostly skip AAA. But once he was with the big club, it seemed that Camargo was just better (now). With other holes in the lineup, they couldn’t afford any on the job training.

[andyb]

I am not sure Camargo is better. I would say more experienced and less anxious about a role without guaranteed playing time.

Stott was buried after 30 AB. He probably felt if he struck out he'd be benched which ended up true. A rookie that you want to play regularly should not be in that situation. If he was going to be, then yes they should have started him in AAA.

[HopeSpringsEternal]

Ronald Torreyes has asked for and been granted his release from the Phillies.

[Austinfan]

Camargo is a far superior version of Torreyes.

[zambonir]

They are not even comparable really. More likely he realizes that if either Camargo or Didi (or even Segura & Bohm) get hurt Stott still gets the call. Or Maton.