2022 MLB Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion

[andyb]

Seems like Yairo Munoz with better defense. This makes a bit more sense if they were moving on from Didi though no indication of that.

[bkox]

Source: The Cubs are receiving Zach McKinstry in the Chris Martin trade with the Dodgers.

— Patrick Mooney ( @PJ_Mooney ) July 30, 2022

[bigegypt0417]

Jojo romero is going to the Cards...meh.

[allentown]

Yeah, actually good value for JoJo.

[BostonRoss]

I guess The Cards didn’t want Familia for some reason…

[Philsmania]

I think back to "all the mega prospects", the Phillies got for Hamels, Lee, even Ken Giles and all the "prospects" they gave up for Pence, Lee and Halliday. How many of the prospects became game changers?

just one has moe than 5 WAR in the MLB. Carlos Carrasco.

People always hope that a deal turns out like a james shields for Fernando Tatis or Sandberg for DeJesus... but those deals are talked about so much because they are rare.

It's darned near impossible to get fair value for a superstar player. If you get a package of prospects for him and just one of them turns out to be a solid to good ML player, you've probably done alright, or at least the best you can reasonably do. See Cleveland with Carrasco for Lee, Toronto with D'Arnaud for Halladay, even arguably the Phillies with Padilla for Schilling.

The just-traded Luis Castillo is another rare traded prospect who becomes an elite ML talent. Marlins traded him to the Reds for Dan Strailey in January of 2017. Castillo was traded four times before he made his ML debut.

The Mariners probably did not get comparable value for Randy Johnson in 1998 but managed to get three legit MLers for him in Freddie Garcia, Carlos Guillen and John Halama which was a great return, all things considered.

[California_Dreamin]

Well, I do not think DD woke up this morning and said "I just have to have Edmundo Sosa on the team." I think he has another deal on the front burner which involves either A] moving an infielder or B] bringing in a lefty starter and moving Falter to the bullpen. Whether you like or dislike DD you must admit he is very good at multi-tasking, and thats what I think is happening right now.

[zambonir]

Yes and no. Clearly there are more moves coming, possibly including what you mention (also being discussed in the Phillies-specific thread). Most of us would prefer saying goodbye to Didi and/or Camargo though Matt W also fears it could mean they are going unload Maton.

But also, it's possible there is one person in the Phillies front office - perhaps the new Assistant GM they got from Tampa - who actually did wake up thinking he had to have Edmundo Sosa. That would actually be nice (if the evaluation is correct).

[bkox]

The Tampa Bay Rays are acquiring outfielder David Peralta from the Arizona Diamondbacks, sources tell ESPN. Catcher Christian Cerda is headed to Arizona. @ByRobertMurray was on Peralta moving.

— Jeff Passan ( @JeffPassan ) July 30, 2022

[EDmuch]

Well whatever trade we make, it appears whoever we get is more valued by DD than Peralta because it seems we could have easily made that trade.

[Dirk41]

Would still love a leadoff guy.

[EDmuch]

Next year. Trea Turner

[bkox]

But I've also heard from multiple teams that the #Phillies haven't just said no on their 2 top-100 pitching prospects, Painter & Abel, but also on Griff McGarry, Ben Brown & Logan O'Hoppe

Hard to see how they can trade for a Game 3/4 type starter without including one of those 3

— Jayson Stark ( @jaysonst ) July 31, 2022

[xogfog]

I also would not trade any of those players, this team, which is playing well right now will be getting back Segura, Harper and Eflin. I would just look to add a bullpen arm so they can release Familia.

[bkox]

Eflin

no guarantee on getting him back. Havent heard any news since he was shut down last time

[xogfog]

Well, they did announce that they did an MRI of his and it was clean, so at this point it will be strengthening and pain management, he should be able to come back.

[zambonir]

I mean, I think you are basically conceding there that this is not an NLCS-caliber Phillies team without a ton of luck, and I'm okay with that if the market is high. Because you don't want a generic "Game 3-4" starter, you want a very clear #3 starter - possibly controllable - if you start including one of the top guys.

I am not optimistic about Eflin, but Suarez is making his case to be Game 3 guy, and Gibson is an adequate Game 4 option. Heck, most teams wind up getting aggressive about only going 2x through and upping bullpen usage in the playoffs anyway. And if you get a #5/depth starter he also becomes a bullpen arm. Not to mention you could win or lose the first series in two.

Perhaps Efllin (given his physical limitations) rather than Suarez (the more experienced reliever) ends up the playoff pen.

[David_Criss]

Are any of the arms they can get better than Suarez or Gibson? This is called negotiations. If there is an arm that can slot in at number 3, DD will have to give up one of those names.

[Aquapong]

Prospects often fail unfortunately. Remember the baby aces? None of them had an impact in Mlb.

[xogfog]

I wouldn't trade any of the players for a 3rd or 4th starter. The one pitcher I would consider moving for a clear 2nd starter that would slot ahead of Nola would be Abel, my gut tells me the other guys will pan out better. Painter looks for real, McGarry's stuff is too good to let go, and Brown is sneaky good and he could be a solid 3rd or 4th starter down the road.