The New Unending Flyers thread

[rkeden]

A few more, BR, and we can petition to have you declared a Saint!

[jimbomill]

That’s a skill set you can sign in free agency without breaking the bank, and there was a top 10 talent available to them at 12

I'm still shaking my head at that first pick especially when you evaluate other available prospects.

[Austinfan]

Wheeler reported that at least two teams were poised to take Luchanko in the teens. So he probably wasn't getting past #15.

He's got more upside, but was more of a gamble, than Helenius - August birthday (so won't be 18 until next season), played on a really bad team with little forward talent. Helenius played in a man's league so it's easier to get a read.

Luchanko at 17 is 5'11 187, was a top performer at the comibne and voted the runner up in the OHL, in speed, smarts and work ethic. Three of the qualities Briere values.

The second round forward is a head scratcher, good at everything, excels at nothing, big, smooth but has a funky skating style. I guess they think they can fix his skating and turn him into a physical, two way middle six center.

The D-man they traded up for is another August birthday, big frame, 6'4 185, good skills but another who has to improve his skating, some of that will come when he fills out, some from coaching.

The Finnish center will be good depth.

[zambonir]

Michkov signs, Hathaway extended, Johnson re-signed.

Kind of a funny headline here if you're a Flyers fan (they also signed Ghost).

NHL contract grades: Hurricanes get reasonable fallback options in Sean Walker,...

[Aquapong]

Mark your calendars. January 11th is the day.

[flyers19rw]

Anaheim might be wise to leave Gauthier in the hotel for that night

[xogfog]

Konecny signed an 8 year extension with an 8.75 million AAV.

[bkeich]

Konecny signed an 8 year extension with an 8.75 million AAV.

Now he is very solidly tradeable. Won’t happen for a year or two, but I can’t imagine him finishing that contract.

[zambonir]

That seems unlikely to me. He'll be part of a good Flyers teams for Years 3-5 ideally and then overpaid and utradeable from there. Can't see another team giving up much for him by the time he is 30, and if the Flyers are trying to trade him then something went wrong.

But, some scorers still produce at a high level into their mid-30s. If that's the case, also no reason to trade him.

[Aquapong]

Icymi, Michkov actually arrived in Philly on Tuesday. He is going to sport number 39. I know it sounds crazy, but that’s exactly the number I felt for him. He’s got a lot of expectations placed on him. Hopefully, the fanbase will be patient.

That’s a pretty big contract, even for a good player like TK. I know the cap will start going up, but he will eventually not be worth the money.

I wonder if the Flyers will go out and get someone like Tarasenko to mentor Michkov through his first few years.

[zambonir]

TK extension doesn't start this season so he is signed through '32-'33. Full no-move until the last two seasons (which have a limited no-trade).

Flyers sign Travis Konecny to an 8-year contract extension: ‘I wanted to be a...

Pretty cute that the Flyers teamed up with Sanheim to "break" the story.

[Aquapong]

Kolosov has apparently told them he’s not returning to the Phantoms, leaving the team in another goalie pickle. He still has two years left on his Elc, which counts against the Flyers total number of contracts regardless of where he plays. He seems to want to be in the NHL or KHL. I suppose they will have to try to trade him or just release him. Otherwise they are just using a contract slot to retain his rights.

[Austinfan]

Kolosov can play in the KHL, it's similar in quality to the AHL, probably a bit above.
He had two solid season, but nothing good enough that you'd write him into a NHL roster right now.

They can look at Ersson and Fedotov, while Kolosov, Zavragin and Bjarnason develop.
They don't have to do anything for a couple years.

I don't think they thought Fedotov was ever coming over, so they figured Kolosov was on the fast track to the NHL, but crap happens - and they don't have any Russians or Russian speakers in LHV - so it was a bad situation. They could have handled it better, but there was no easy way to integrate Kolosov into LHV right now.

[zambonir]

They could have six Russian players in Allentown and it still wouldn't make the AHL lifestyle appealing for him. But yeah, no reason not to hold the contract slot for now, it's just that he won't be available as an emergency call-up.

[bigegypt0417]

Report: Flyers prospect Alexei Kolosov seeking loan to KHL

[flyers19rw]

It starting to look like the NHL clubs are being played by Russian goalies who want to come over and see a clear lane to a NHL roster spot. Askarov is doing a similar thing with Nashville. Perhaps the Flyers were too generous with the way that they went out of their way in order to get Federov out of Russia and over here.
There is little that the Flyers can do with Kolosov if he doesn't choose to come over here for the season. The FO played him up as being a tremendous prospect. The Flyers were quite decent with him last season by allowing him to stay in the KHL and receive ELC wages for his play. One thing that the Flyers could do with him if he refuses to come over is to cut off his ELC salary and force him to then accept KHL wages.
As I see it, if Kolosov chooses to stay in Russia, it would seem that he broke his contract. That being the case, the deal would be broken but the Flyers would retain his rights for several years. He would not be a UFA.

[zambonir]

The Flyers probably aren't going to refuse to loan him, in the end having him the KHL is an equally valid developmental option just like the AHL (or junior/college for younger guys).

Also pretty sure if they did play hardball he'd make more money in the KHL, if not necessarily on paper.

(Edit: I guess the Flyers are against it, just not sure how it works out well for anyone. An unhappy player in Allentown or an ex-Flyer.)

[Austinfan]

KHL salary for Kolosov would be in the 200-300K range, far less than his ELC.
He's not Sorokin or Shesterkin, an elite goalie that a team wants to retain at all costs.

[VoteForKalas]

Flyers seem to have more issues than other organizations with their prospects..Hopefully, this stuff does not damage our chances of landing and retaining the talent we desperately need.

[zambonir]

I would think there's still under the table money and perks and political value in getting him there, plus the culture and lifestyle issue is obviously meaningful to him. Not the smartest path to his next NHL contract, granted. For the Flyers the issue is more that they need him here as the #3 more than which team/league is best for his year of development.

I don't think the Russian players can be put in the same barrel as Gauthier. Plus, Michkov couldn't wait to get here.