The New New Unending Flyers thread

[LegoDoom]

Wait... Sportscenter is still a thing?

[LegoDoom]

You couldn't make the trip the Montreal?

[bigegypt0417]

One day contract!

[LegoDoom]

Luckily the Habs have put in a few.

What's Jack Quinn's deal? I saw him play last year and he is super talented. Might be a good target for the Flyers.

Not AFs reason for getting a bottom 6 player on a good team, but a super talented player on a bad team.

[LegoDoom]

Btw, Couts pass with ~2:20 left in the 2nd is an insanely underrated pass.

[bigegypt0417]

Flyers lose...pens win...Bruins win...sabres getting at least a point!

[Docs]

Flyers lose
Bruins win
Pens win
Buffalo win in shootout

[LegoDoom]

Foerster launching a stick brings me back to Desjardins 25+ years ago.

[Docs]

Kraken up 2-0, don’t think i will stay up to watch that scoreboard

[jimbomill]

Ovi's goals after 30 is fairly crazy

Ain't it though? He's historic.

[jimbomill]

The Great One remains the best hickey player of all time. Like you said, while he was chipping in nearly 900 goals, he was dishing out over twice as many assists.
But Ovi's about-to-be-record is also worthy of kudos.

[Docs]

With yesterdays loss to Montreal, the flyers are now officially eliminated from a playoff position

[Squire]

Great Flyers Night!

[LegoDoom]

For me Ovechkin's record is a Sports Center award. All that is emphasized on that show is the goal. Assists, defense and other skills are downplayed with the focus being on the goal scorers. SC and much of the hockey media is gaga focusing on this record while the rest of the game is getting downplayed.
With Ovechkin comes a record comprised of goals and longevity. Good for him. However when the totality of his game, including his offense, is compared to many others,(Kovalchuk, Bossy, Jagr, et al.) it pales. Right now he can claim that he was the greatest gunner of all time. Let's stick with that.

This is a laughably bad take.

And longevity is a thing. Ovi is also crazy low in games played after 35, yet still very high on the list.

[zambonir]

I'm not sure your first list supports your opinion (or caustic way of expressing it) exactly. I'd take all ten of the players ahead of Ovi on that list on my team. Maybe not Bossy, like you say longevity matters (and you yourself think highly of Kovalchuk). Saying that being the all-time leading goal scorer is not the same thing as being the best player isn't really controversial and if he's only the 8th or 11th or 20th best player, he's still a Hall of Famer.

It's also probably not fair to punish an individual player for not winning multiple Cups, but that is certainly the other reason he doesn't loom as large for hockey fans nationally. Along with not being Canadian, of course (which also isn't fair). Unlike Jagr (and Gretzky for that matter) he not only didn't play with any other superstars but most of his great teammates weren't North American. The fact that he is being celebrated as much as he is is actually a nice measure of progress from the age of Bobby Clarke and Don Cherry.

[LegoDoom]

I'm not sure your first list supports your opinion (or caustic way of expressing it) exactly. I'd take all ten of the players ahead of Ovi on that list on my team. Maybe not Bossy, like you say longevity matters (and you yourself think highly of Kovalchuk). Saying that being the all-time leading goal scorer is not the same thing as being the best player isn't really controversial and if he's only the 8th or 11th or 20th best player, he's still a Hall of Famer.

The 11th highest player in points does not support my opinion? He's one of the best ever. I'm also sure there is an argument to be made that goals are more important than assists, which should probably skew point totals.

[LegoDoom]

And yes, I think highly of Kovalchuk in the sense that you have to defend him at the blue line. You might even need to do so with Ovi. Hull's one timer was fantastic, but much closer to the net. As good as Gretzky was, you never had to do that with him.

My statement was with how to defend them and not with just stats.

[LegoDoom]

Hull used a low flex stick well before almost anyone (low flex meaning it was more flexible, which is confusing).

Ovechkin does not.

I think the lowest flex stick I've seen was Samsonov, but he was short and likely cut it down a lot. I still have a Lindros GI Bauer that I would have to really lean into it to get it to flex. He was a powerful player.

Sorry for the tangent, but calling Ovi a highlight player is beyond mindless.

[bigegypt0417]

Bruins-Sabres play today.

Let's hope for OT!

[LegoDoom]

I'm still waiting for flyers19wr to say why Tippett was worthy of his extension given the fact that he's mostly offensive driven and not really that good at it.