Eagles 2022-2023 Season

[Purduke]

Sorry, I misread your post. You did say "any Eagles win." Somehow I misread that. What I suggested had the Eagles losing their last three.

[phillychuck]

So Eagles clinch #1 seed (from official sources) if they have one win, OR if Dallas loses once in its other games+Minn loses once+SF loses once. My earlier post was wrong.

[zambonir]

The bottom line I take away from all your posts is that this Cowboys game is just not the big deal it could have been and not really a must-win. Play to win but if not come home and beat the Saints - which you want to do for other reasons too.

Which is a whole other question, if you've already clinched you still don't want to lose to the Saints! That said I think you look for rest and healing - and new injury-avoidance - more than you worry about rust.

And Cowboys are pretty much locked into the #5 spot assuming the Eagles win the division which also means they are the likely first playoff opponent. I could see Tampa beating them before I can see an upset on in the other two games.

[xogfog]

Hurts has a sprained shoulder, likely to miss the Cowboys game, could miss more, but no broken bones, not a serious injury.

[allentown]

So, we will lose the Cowboys game. That's where kamikaze play will get you. On one run, when he clearly wasn't going to gain much more, instead of sliding, Hurts turned and ran straight into the defender. Yesterday was the first game Hurts ran as stupidly as Wentz.

[bkeich]

I almost think there is some gamesmanship going on here. We simply don't need the Cowboys game and no reason to expose him to a team that would love to injure him and / or give them momentum by beating him. I am sure his shoulder is sprained, but I strongly suspect if the division was tied he would be playing.

If Minshew beats them we can really laugh at them.

[phillychuck]

Left shoulder; mild sprain. Eagles' reporters said he would play if it were the playoffs. Honestly, I don't think Minshew has a chance--lots of the running game depends on Hurts occupying one defender. It will be fascinating to see how it plays out, though. Can Ian Book run?

Also think Hurts not playing sends a message to the team that they can phone this one in.

[Docs]

Are we seriously waving the white flag against a team that just lost to the Jags and let the Texans take them to the wire? The Cowboys are not the Eagles and the Eagles earned this luxury of resting their starting QB. I'd like to see how the passing game looks with Minshaw, who knows maybe Smith will have more yards Saturday than in the NCAA championship. I do agree that Hurts needs Juan Samuel to teach him how to slide.

[gmwannabe]

Surprised that it is his left shoulder. he took a hit yesterday and then the DLineman fell on him. Hurts' right shoulder was on the ground and he was slow to get up. Very poor offensive game plan with the quarterback running so much against a team that was ranked, what, 27th, 29th in the league in rushing defense. is this team mimicking the '17 team with a back up leading the team to a championship? not one of the better offensive game plans of the year.
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[zambonir]

Was already gonna be hard to win this one on the road; who can say if the fact that it was no longer a must-win made it harder or easier. By all means, they can still win it, and it's still gonna be hard.

[phillychuck]

McClane said left shoulder, another reporter is now saying right. If it's right, he threw the dime to AJ with a bad throwing shoulder.

[xogfog]

A shoulder sprain wouldn't have been an issue except for pain tolerance due to adrenaline. It would have felt worse after the game and for sure the next day.

[phillychuck]

It is indeed the right shoulder.

Two reporters this morning stated that sources told them that if this game meant anything Hurts would be able to play. I guess there is a strategic advantage to forcing Dallas to prepare for a different offense (no RPOs, or very few of them, fewer deep shots) under Minshew this week as well. If you assume the Eagles' chances of winning their last three games are roughly 30% at Dallas, 60% home vs. NO, and 60% home vs NYG (if they both need the win), their chances of earning the #1 seed without help are roughly 89% now. Getting help is pretty unlikely, you would need Dallas (in its other 2 games), Minnesota, and SF all to lose at least once, which is roughly 20%.

Hurts would improve the Eagles' winning chances to roughly 50%/80%/70% (basing these round numbers off of money line odds before the injury), meaning having Hurts in all three games takes them from 91% to 97+%.

Protecting Hurts was obviously worth more than a 6% increase in their chances of getting the #1 seed to them.

[gmwannabe]

well the eagles are down to Minshew and 6 ft. tall Ian book for this game. if Minshew gets hurt, that's a real poor choice. I can see them signing Terry Bradshaw for this game to possibly recreating the Immaculate one. I hope this week's defense is ready. the game rests on them.
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[phillychuck]

Book was pretty good at ND:

He also played well in the pre-season for the Saints. He can run a little, too.

[zambonir]

Side note

Nick said Gardner Minshew won't be back in time for walk through. Is delivering eulogy at Mike Leach's funeral.

— Reuben Frank ( @RoobNBCS ) December 20, 2022

[bkeich]

https://www-bleedinggreennation-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bleedinggreennation.com/platform/amp/2022/12/20/23519897/eagles-sent-doug-pederson-jaguars-staff-philly-cheesesteaks-for-beating-cowboys-week-15?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe

I wonder if they send a crate of sour grapes to the Cowboys at the same time​

[bkeich]

Good for Minshew. Some things are more important.

Just another reason to like this odd guy for honoring a commitment.

[phillychuck]

And a reason to like Siriani, who apparently pretty much insisted he go to the funeral when Minshew approached him with the conflict.

[schillingfan]

The Eagles team under Siriani really seems like a family that loves and cares for each other. He leadership is high character guys.