2024 Trade Deadline Speculation

Can we get Winker and Thomas? And Finnegan?

If we add Painter and Rojas and Caba to the deal.

Trading Turnbull would be interesting, though I think I want him more than Phillips in my September rotation. I suppose Walker is a wild card in this too. If he did come back healthy then Turnbull would definitely be tradeable (since he'll cost much more next year anyway).

I just like Winker as a pure rental that likely won't have a top prospect cost. We are probably going to trade a pitcher (Klassen, Aldegheri, Cabrera, McGowan are probably the ones teams will want outside of Painter and a discounted Abel). I guess I am OK losing someone from that first list for a useful rental. I almost wish Winker made $10 million because his cost would be less then.

No. Turnbull's not gonna get you much of anything since he can't pitch before the trade deadline. He might get you some other team's Cristian Pache or one lottery ticket prospect if the Phillies were willing to risk their own depth (or actually acquired another SP).

Maybe the Phillies could give the O's prospects that they then flip to help the major league team (or to replenish depth after other deals they've made) but Mullins is not going to be any cheaper than any of the other non-rentals out there, even with his downward trend.

Me, too - August, 2034 or so.

To be fair to Walker, if he's healthy and has his normal velocity, he's good for half a season.

Something to watch with Ranger down the stretch, some pitchers just don't have the stamina to maintain a high level of performance over 30 starts.

At this point they probably don't care if they go .300 or .400 in Walker's starts, he'll probably only make three meaningful ones (in August) and 3 or 4 meaningless ones (in September). Turnbull is still a bigger question mark just because of his health, and Phillips, who knows (but one of them would still be in the six-man rotation too).

Far more curious if there is any truth to the report that they are interested in adding a starter. That would at minimum suggest they may not be sure about Sanchez given his road performance, or still want the option of using Suarez in a more limited flex role.

Either way, they will be managing everybody's workload after next week.

One way, I suppose, to improve the bullpen (albeit with two many lefties) is to put Ranger there and then add a starter. There's always the option of managing Ranger's innings so he can be restored to the rotation come playoff time, hopefully at better strength than he's been showing lately as the season slogs along.

A move to acquire a starter also allows the luxury for a team with an 8-game lead to move to a six man rotation, conserving everyone's strength for the playofffs.

The big play, I guess, would be to trade for Crochet and immediately move to a six man rotation. The worry with Crochet is that he'll be spent when the playoffs arrive, and the Phillies have the big advantage here in being in a position to conserve his innings,

Starters are expensive though. There are scenarios, yeah, but it feels like gilding the lily. They already have enough arms to go with a six-man rotation, most of whom are still better than most teams' third starter (not Walker, but Sanchez, and Turnbull if he comes back healthy and Phillips for as long as he can get away with it).

Now, we'd really be talking if they did put Turnbull into another trade, or figured out a way to offload Walker's contract without having to include an extra prospect (just money).

I think it would be hard for Ranger or Suarez to pitch with half a body lol

Yes, Ranger is demonstrably suited to bullpen work, as well as to a flex role. It would be curious to limit him in that way given how excellent he was to start the season, let alone squander assets trying to do better, but neither his excellence nor his durability is a sure thing right now.

And Sanchez has also spent most of his MLB career as a reliever. Not a memorable one, but he can do it. And will, unless he's left off the NLDS roster entirely.

Ranger hasn't pitched out of the pen since 2021.
He was effective, but moved into the starting rotation in August.
Most of his relief appearances were with 2-3 days rest.

It was the Postseason but Suarez did pitch out of the bullpen to closeout the 2022 NLCS clincher two days after he started Game 3.

After this awfu road trip I think we’re going to get another bullpen arm. I guess the first half was too good to be true.