2024-2025 Sixers Season

[LegoDoom]

I'm pretty sure most fans liked the Harris trade at the time.

[phillychuck]

Do we now blame the Isaiah Joe giveaway on Doc? Kid got a huge deal yesterday.

[bigegypt0417]

!2 million a year for a bench piece is actually pretty good these days.

Doc Rivers is the gift that seems to keep giving.

[bigegypt0417]

Klay got 50 million from the mavs.

[andyb]

!2 million a year for a bench piece is actually pretty good these days.

And with the new TV deal the cap is going to go way up again in the next 3-5 years. That deal won't kick in till 2025-2026, but I am guessing we are going to see the first $100 million a year player at some point.

[bkeich]

So we have a 30 year old Center, 32 year old backup and 34 year old (lets say SF). We are going to need some young guys to eat up minutes and be certain to be on the floor for these guys and their obvious injuries.

I dont mind Reed on a low cost bird type contract. He can probably do a little better than the league minimum from someone else.

We need a PF that really can rebound. Embiid needs to be limited to 26-28 minutes to try and keep him alive. Drummond can play 20 minutes without issue probably, but there are going to be ALOT of games where one of these guys are less than available.

George also needs a 20 minute a game backup. George probably should also be limited in minutes, whether he wants to be or not. Oubre is a good fit for that, maybe we can even have some time with both Oubre and George on the floor at the same time (SF and SG).

Maxey is going to have to really step up during the regular season. He is going to have to be on the court alot, they need to work on his "dont do things to get yourself to the bench" skills. Not every ball needs to be dived for.

To do this right Nurse is really going to have to have these guys buy into "we are here to win in the playoffs", not to try and get the best record in the regular season. Embiid's nature is to go all out, all the time, he needs to realize that is a May idea, not an October one. I hope our PF has a bad, bad attitude and can knock some people around because it is clear at this point that the league has figured out that you can pound on Embiid and he will eventually be unable to play. We need someone out there that stops that from happening.

I think this will be fun for as long as Embiid and George's bodies last. After that... it is going to be a disaster.

[phillychuck]

Reed is already making far more than league minimum (~$7M).

This is our current depth chart (roughly):

Maxey/McCain/Edwards
?/Gordon
Oubre/Council IV
George/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/(Reed)

I agree the other 5 or so players need to be young and energetic and athletic. With basically no money left (unless they trade Reed) filling out the roster is going to be a challenge! (If you trade Reed you can bring back $15M in salary, which helps...)

[bkeich]

I want to say maybe this will cause the franchise to go into a selling mode, but in the same day they give Tatum the largest contract in NBA History as an extension.

It sure would be nice if they did done cost cutting, but doesn’t seem to be going that way.

Sell-tics: C's up for sale 2 weeks after Finals win

[zambonir]

There's really no such thing as cost-cutting in the NBA. Almost every team in the league is always over the cap, and the good/big-market teams by a lot (and not just them). Selling off players is usually just about cap management not about saving actual $.

Odds are the new owner will have more money than this group too.

[xogfog]

Reed's contract only would have vested if the Sixers got past the second round, which they didn't, so he's technically a free agent.

[zambonir]

Well, the contract is technically in force, it just would have been guaranteed if they'd made the second round. They could have still released him then but he would have gotten paid. Now they can release him with no consequences. But it seems they'd get more cap space if they can trade him instead.

Seems unlikely they can trade him on merit (both his play and his salary), only if it becomes a number-matching type thing for both sides (his new team could still release him theoretically too).

[phillychuck]

If you trade BBall Paul (who is NOT a free agent, BTW, just working on a non-guaranteed contract) plus picks you can take back $15.2M in salary (per Bodner). That could be a decent player.

[zambonir]

Right good point - you'd really only be trading the picks to get that higher number, Reed's not the value for the other team.

You still get $9 million in cap space if you cut him (and don't have to lose any picks) but that's not as decent a player as $15.2.

His deal does eventually become guaranteed if he sticks with a team on this deal until January, which might just be standard for any non-guaranteed deal (and still wouldn't guarantee the third year. But that's also in force. Which is why you get all that cap room if you trade him).

[phillychuck]

I think Bodner said the cap space if he's cut is less than his salary, which is $7M...he was clear that it really doesn't pay to cut him, just keep him as a trade chip if you need it.

This article explains most of the stuff without getting into exact numbers for each move:

How the Sixers should exploit KJ Martin’s cheap cap hold

[bigegypt0417]

NBA Rumors: Warriors in Talks for Buddy Hield in 76ers Sign-and-Trade After Klay...

[Docs]

Warriors are active despite losing klay. I would like the sixers to figure out how to keep and use buddy, they still need more players on this roster.

[zambonir]

Seems like he is going to cost too much money (possibly a lot more than seems reasonable, never mind the cap).

[Austinfan]

They need more future picks, if Embiid goes down, they want an accelerated rebuild around Maxey - b/c there's no patching around a team without Embiid.

[zambonir]

That seems unlikely. They are probably going to extend Joel (because that's just how the NBA works) through '29, Morey is under contract through '28, and when it all goes bad that will be someone else's problem (and Maxey will be someone else's player). If Joel actually goes down there's no replacing him (on the court or within the cap).

Even if they don't extend Joel, the situation is the same. The only accelerated rebuild would be if Joel is still viable doesn't take his player option for '26-'27 and/or wants out. If he's in decline or hurt, he'll take the option.

[bigegypt0417]

Sixers getting a 2031 second via the mavs for hield.