2024-2025 Sixers Season

[phillychuck]

They probably won't use it; they'll trade it. Decent return for not much equity.

[zambonir]

An asset's an asset. A favor to Hield and the Mavs too really.

[zambonir]

A five-team deal! The Mavs pick the Sixers get already belonged to Golden State from the Klay deal.

Warriors to acquire Buddy Hield via sign-and-trade

[jimbomill]

The Mavs pick the Sixers get already belonged to Golden State

So, we get the 2nd Round pick from this season's NBA Championship runner-up. That hints at being a pick in the mid-to-upper 50's range. Essentially, it's a "nothin-muffin".

[VoteForKalas]

Essentially, it's a "nothin-muffin".

Which also describes Buddy Hield as a player for us unfortunately

[zambonir]

So, we get the 2nd Round pick from this season's NBA Championship runner-up. That hints at being a pick in the mid-to-upper 50's range. Essentially, it's a "nothin-muffin".

It's in 2031!

[jimbomill]

also describes Buddy Hield as a player for us unfortunately

Aye, sadly it does.

[jimbomill]

It's in 2031!

Good heavens! will the NBA have priced itself out of existence by then?

[zambonir]

As disappointing as Hield was the Sixers might have wanted him back if they could afford him. Much like Harris he simply couldn't ever be the third guy.

Instead they wanted Klay. Wonder which one is getting a bigger contract.

[BostonRoss]

So the Sixers traded for someone who may not yet have reached puberty.

[zambonir]

It will probably belong to another team before he does!

[bigegypt0417]

Sixers signing caleb martin per woj...paul Reed is being waived.

NBA Rumors: Caleb Martin Turned Down $65M Heat Contract Before $32M Deal with...

[bkeich]

Hard to get excited about Martin. 43% FG, 35% 3 pt last year. Relatively bad stats. Not a particularly good rebounder (4 pg), not a playmaker. Ok defensively.

Very marginal signing. Kinda hoping we get better players, we need a PF that can rebound so that we can play George at SF, he just isn’t that good a rebounder anymore.

I guess they couldn’t find a trade partner for Reed. Shame, we got a lot more room if we could trade him.

[dicemen99]

Hard to get excited about Martin. 43% FG, 35% 3 pt last year. Relatively bad stats. Not a particularly good rebounder (4 pg), not a playmaker. Ok defensively.

Very marginal signing. Kinda hoping we get better players, we need a PF that can rebound so that we can play George at SF, he just isn’t that good a rebounder anymore.

I guess they couldn’t find a trade partner for Reed. Shame, we got a lot more room if we could trade him.

I have to disagree with you here. Martin is a 37% 3pt shooter with the Heat for the past 3 years and is a 40% 3pt guy in the playoffs (when the game changes) over 45 games in his career. Pretty good rebounder with a big wingspan - 6'10" - good defender and not loose with the ball - about 1 TOV per game in just under 27 mpg.

Outside shooting, defense, rebounding - all things the Sixers need to add to their core. This is an excellent signing. Not sure what happened with him turning down over $60M with Miami (there was some speculation he was not happy with his role), but the Sixers are lucky to land him at the number they did (4/32M).

[bkeich]

What you are describing is a 3 and D SF. That isn’t what we need, that means that George plays PF and he is not really able to do that anymore for a whole season.

You say he is a good rebounder but that stats differ. He is actually an extremely below average rebounder for a PF. 4 per game is basically just being on the court and getting the ones that come to you.

By playing him at PF you are forcing Embiid to fight for every rebound against the other teams Center and PF.

He isn’t a good backup, but he isn’t terrible, but he used up most of our remaining cap and we still need someone to hit the boards hard because it isn’t George. I don’t think you can play Embiid and Drummond together, but it would be fun.

As a starting PF he is very unimpressive to me and not what we needed.

[LegoDoom]

3P% only really matters when you factor in volume. He's a 35% shooter on 3 attempts a game. So... he's ok.

[dicemen99]

You are way too tied to position labels. It's not that game anymore.

He can defend anything except a big guy in the paint. He's a 37 percent guy career wise - why are we just looking at one season when we have a larger sample available? Proven he doesn't wilt in the playoffs.

Really good signing. This guy is perfect for Nurse and will end up a fan favorite.

[zambonir]

We are, after all, technically talking about Tobias Harris's replacement here. A cheaper player, a better player, and a better positional fit. It's probably more important that Oubre continues to be what he was last year.

And they also haven't given up a single asset yet. In fact, they have only added, with the sign-and-trade and freeing up Reed's space (which, 15 million is not that much more than $9 million if there wasn't a specific player to use it on at that price).

If the bench and rotation isn't perfect in October you know it's going to be a whole other thing in February.

[dicemen99]

You say we don't need a 3 and D - well, there is a reason why everyone is looking for 3 and D guys. You win with them. Sixers haven't had nearly enough of them on their roster. That's changing.

[bkeich]

We are, after all, technically talking about Tobias Harris's replacement here. A cheaper player, a better player, and a better positional fit. It's probably more important that Oubre continues to be what he was last year.

And they also haven't given up a single asset yet. In fact, they have only added, with the sign-and-trade and freeing up Reed's space (which, 15 million is not that much more than $9 million if there wasn't a specific player to use it on at that price).

If the bench and rotation isn't perfect in October you know it's going to be a whole other thing in February.

Yea, but we aren’t (talking about Harris’ replacement). George replaces Harris, in cost and in expectation, but not position (George should be a more consistent threat). What we will be missing from Harris is his rebounding, that is why we need a PF.

I expect (unfortunately) that he will be a starter and get 25+ minutes, if that is true we are going to be an extremely weak rebounding team. Only real Embiid can be above average under the boards (among the guys expected to play starter minutes) so once again we are setting him up for a heavy workload, and we all know what happens when he has a heavy workload in the regular season.

Martin’s cap money was the chance to get Embiid help, instead we got a below average offensive, average defensive, below average rebounding, undersized PF. Diceman says I am too hung up on positions, and yes, the game has changed, he is right. But what are we going to do when an opponent puts a 6’10”, high energy Offensive rebounder on the court at the PF. Martin is 6’5”, which is the size of a SG, and he has no resemblance to Barkley. That is why he averages “I was on the court” rebounding numbers.

We had very little cap room left and we had a big need. Martin is a complete miss on that need IMHO, he is just a lesser version of George. Now if he ends up being his backup, then I see it different, but I don’t think that is the plan. (And if the plan is to play George at PF that is even worse, except against teams that also really only put one “big” on the court).