2022 MLB Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion

[Patchmk88]

Bkox - I hope you decide to stay as I enjoy the information that you post. As a Phillies fan in Louisville, KY, I don’t have local access to Philadelphia news outlets so items posted here often safe me browsing time. A lot of that can be credited to you. I’d personally miss your contributions.

As a sports fan, I enjoy message boards of my favorite teams (this is by far the best Phillies one I have found - I like the intimacy here, as we aren’t overwhelmed with users). Throughout my message board history there inevitably are posters that run me the wrong way. In the past, there were even times where someone would make my blood boil. I’ve learned to view those type of posts and either ignore them or laugh at them - whichever the post dictates.

Regardless, a message board should be a fun outlet. If it becomes a stressor, I suggest taking a break. Maybe a reset will put things in perspective and you can figure out whether you miss it enough to look past some things that irritate you.

[BaseballCat]

I have lurked a long time and I have been a member for a few years. Can’t remember why I officially joined, but it was probably around trade deadline. Bkox- I noticed when you left before and I will notice if you leave now. I have enjoyed your commentary over the years and would miss it greatly. You are appreciated.

The board is generally a small group of dedicated Phillies phans and generally does not attract aholes other boards may attract. There are squabbles from time to time in such a tight-knit group and I tend to stay out. In general I hope we have intelligent discourse with each other - not words that are potential microaggressions that build over time. I have enjoyed my time here and hope we all can enjoy for many more years and celebrate a few Phillies playoff victories together.

[LegoDoom]

You posted this right after I posted the Odubel release in both the Marsh trade thread and the season discussion thread. You made it sound like I was doing this because I was rushing to be first to post or something like I as a 47yo man gets some kinda jollies about being the first to post on a forum.

I am not taking any sides on this, but to be fair to julio being the "first" to post is a real thing on the internet (or it used to be). I do agree that your post had relevance in multiple threads, but looking at it from a moderator perspective, you want to consolidate as much as possible (so users can get information easily).

bkox, you are honestly making way more out of this than is warranted. I like your posts; I hope you stay. But this sounds personal, like you've been keeping score or something.

I suggest that you just let it go, really. Nothing was meant by it, trust me. It was a very difficult day on the tech side for the board, and julio bears the brunt of that.

A message board has hundreds of different posters all of whom have different personalities, and it's inevitable that over time people are going to rub each other the wrong way. When that happens all of us hope we can get past the conflict and move onward. With the way things are now in the world, it seems more important than ever to me that we give each other space to step out-of-bounds occasionally without amplifying the misstep.

JMHO, I hope it resonates with you...

PC and I have certainly had issues (and to be fair, most of it is on my end), but I agree with everything in this post.

And like others have stated I hope you don't leave.

[Aquapong]

Julio, just curious…how many board members are there and how many regularly active? Ballpark is fine. I’ve been on one very active unrelated board for over 20 years and it had been a long time since the original owner was running it out of his apartment. I haven’t heard of it crashing from demand in probably a decade.

[julio]

Julio, just curious…how many board members are there and how many regularly active? Ballpark is fine. I’ve been on one very active unrelated board for over 20 years and it had been a long time since the original owner was running it out of his apartment. I haven’t heard of it crashing from demand in probably a decade.

If you want to see activity, go to the "hamburger" menu (the three-lined thing next to your avatar on the right side, just under the banner), and select "Users." you can view the resulting list by time period (today, week, month, quarter, year, all-time), and sort on any column.

[gmwannabe]

Seeing all of this and wondering what triggered this. this site is a great one and, as I have mentioned before, the first site I visit in the morning and last one at night. Sorry to see this happening. BK and I have had some good banterings through the years and I have enjoyed the postings. I think Julio has done a great job with this site. I have never seen any condescending tones to any of my posts (although all know that I throw in some zingers now and then). I wouldn't take them personally anyhow. Hang around BK, I look forward to more fun. and also Kudos to you for bringing up Trey McCall in the draft thread. a real name from the past (terrible pick) and if I remember correctly, didn't the Phils screw up the name and wanted someone else for that pick. or was that just here say. Stay on.
gm

[Philsmania]

Seeing all of this and wondering what triggered this.

I think I triggered it when I asked if the board was crashing. Oh well, my purpose was merely to inquire if others were having issues at that point in time. Sorry, everyone.

P.S.: I think the same thing may have happened last year in the closing hours of deadline day..

[andyb]

To echo everyone else, I don't want to see good posters leave. We all have our good days and bad days posting (yes we get grumpier as we get older), but in general this is the rare place where one can have adult conversations among good posters who generally self-police bad behavior. If anyone is ever personally abusive that poster gets called out either in posts or by the moderators. Even our political threads don't get too bad. I know I usually decide not to post a political comment if it would just rile some people up even if I thought the comment was correct.

We probably can do a better job of using the tech support area and other support threads to note problems. We like the message board software but all probably understand the code is a little old by now and probably won't support traffic like it did 10 years ago when there were fewer GIFs and emojis and links in all the threads. We can also flag posts rather than calling them out in threads. I am guessing more than one person will flag a bad post and that should be dealt with in private threads.

But in general, this is a good board and we need to keep it and grow it a bit if we can. Where else are we going to discuss the DSL team getting no-hit on a lazy workday? Or with the current Rhys Hoskins threads, an adult discussion of how one of the better Phillies' current players may not be a good idea to re-sign with the team when his contract is up unless it is a short deal or at a discount?

As with everything else in society let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the pretty good. There is good baseball talk here. We do a decent job of self-policing. Most of us have lived part of our lives in the Philly area so have connections and memories that go beyond baseball. And maybe, just maybe, we'll see some playoff baseball this year for the first time in a decade.

[phillychuck]

Amen, Andy, amen.

[Austinfan]

This is the rare board where intelligent discussion is allowed, nay, encouraged, rather than knee jerk reactions and trolling.

[Sabin]

Amen, Andy, amen.

Hey, PC. Let me preface by saying that these observations are purely my own (bkox is perfectly capable of speaking for himself), and that I also agree with andyb and AF. But I think a larger point may being missed in favor of focusing solely on julio's post here, falling back also on the good overall character of the community populating the board. Certainly, I see no one arguing against the latter.

I want to say as well that I've got no specific axe to grind personally with julio. I respect his views, and have learned a good amount from his posts over the years, as I have from others here. But I also feel his propensity to talk down to others at times is unnecessary and has turned good posters away. I've been fully comfortable giving him that feedback in hopes he'll course correct and no one takes unnecessary offense, But this isn't always successful.

Obviously, julio's words triggered an emotional response from bkox. It's easy to see bkox's as an overreaction within the context of just that post (ignoring the comments pointing to it being a pattern of behavior). But even it was, it isn't entirely uncommon for a 'final straw'-type moment to elicit a reaction that dwarfs the perceived infraction itself, because of the weight of the words or actions that preceded it. So whitewashing julio's condescension and dismissing bkox as simply taking things too personally to me seems a bit obtuse. I mean, I've been a member of the board for over 21 years; you were part of the community before Dave even founded it. I'd find it hard to believe you haven't seen examples of similar posts from julio in the past.

Another reason his down-talking bothers me is because I'd really like to maintain (even gain) participation on this board. You said above that online forums have hundreds of posters - this one doesn't. Without looking I would say we have 25, maybe 30, regular and semi-regular posters. While growing the community would be great, I often wonder where we'll be when the likes of you, julio, and allentown - along with other OG members here - decide to hang up the spikes. I'd like to think we'll still have robust group to carry things, but am unsure whether that will be the case.

Point being, we have the size to tend to our members, if not the compassion and dedication to civil discourse. You mentioned that in these times we should allow others the occasional misstep, and I don't disagree. But I also think taking the time to extend a simple 'thank you' or 'I'm sorry' on occasion goes a long way as well. Yes, disagreements are inevitable, but losing good posters like bkox in a manner like this is a real shame, and didn't have to happen.

JMHO.

[GhostofHud]

A few months ago I posted something innocuous about I forget what and received an admonishment from Julio. What's more, there was some piling on, including one (I won't say who) by someone I was half-way friendly with a few years ago.)
I haven't contributed since except for a response to a post a few days ago from California Dreamin' that I removed five minutes later. As you would all know, I rarely post. But I read often since I find the board interesting and informative.
The posters here are knowledgeable, which is why I read, but as a group unwelcoming -- at least IMHO.
The irony of Julio is he acts like he's above it all, yet, he's rude. And smug. When he admonished me a few months ago, I was taken aback, and then I thought: You don't even know me. And if you did, I think you'd be very surprised.
And so with that, I'll again leave gracefully.

[phillychuck]

I'm getting very uncomfortable with this thread--one of the hallmarks of civility is not to call other people out publicly by name (or posting ID). If someone, as a poster, has difficulty with me or thinks I have been rude, please PM me and I'll apologize. I would seriously prefer that you did not post in a thread about how I offended you. I really think this community is better off without that sort of thing.

Since the trade deadline is well past, I'm going to close the thread since it has degenerated into a "Festivus" airing of grievances...

[phillychuck]