2021 Draft News & Speculation

andyb 2021-06-27 15:35:42 UTC #182

I think the international periods will continue to be delayed until January 15th.

I guess the big news for the Phillies is no free agent penalties this time. We have had penalties in each of the past 3 periods of $500K or $1M. Full large market allocation next time should help them compete for the top prospects or at least add another mid-level prospect or two.

bkox 2021-07-01 03:25:56 UTC #183

Latest mock draft has us taking RHP Andrew Painter

gmwannabe 2021-07-01 11:59:10 UTC #184

Hmmm. i was told to not say anymore.

bkox 2021-07-01 13:22:29 UTC #185

by whom? about what?

kmc1019 2021-07-01 13:45:35 UTC #186

I know there are no quick fixes to a system that is shockingly and incomprehensibly bereft of premium talent after a lost decade, a product of both incompetence and bad luck. To that end, I hope they continue to take whomever they consider the best player available, independent of position or previous drafts. If that is Andrew Painter, then great.

Squire 2021-07-02 14:52:18 UTC #187

A Phillies Only Mock Draft resulting from my boredom. LImited to picking guys at or lower than their selection number on the BA 500

Round 1(13): LHP Jordan Wicks, Kansas State - yeah...decided to play it safe. College LHP wiht a 70 grade changeup feels pretty safe to me. Saw something about how if MLB really cracks down on the sticky stuff, the guys with deception in their delivery and great change ups will not be affected.

Round 2 (49): Maxwell Muncy, SS/3B, Thousand Oaks HS, CA - California Prep who can hit usually feels safe until the Phillies get a hold of them.

Round 3 (84): Pierce Coppola, LHP, Verona HS, NJ - Assuming we have enough money
Round 4 (114): JT Schwartz, 1B, UCLA
Round 5 (145): Dominic Hamel, RHP Dallas Baptist

gmwannabe 2021-07-02 15:09:54 UTC #188

Really like the 2nd and third picks. and would love to see another Hamel in the fold! Don't know anything about the UCLA 1B though.
gm

fish 2021-07-02 19:54:24 UTC #189

No complaints from me on that list Squire. Pierce Coppola is really interesting. He went from being a bean pole to now at 18 a build and delivery strikingly similar to a young Randy Johnson. Velo of course isn't much above the low 90's yet, but if that isn't projectability, I don't know what is.

It's crazy to think they could literally take 20 guys who can throw in the mid-90s given how much velocity there is in the game now. While you don't draft for need and there are plenty of holes to fill, lets face it, it's time to make a concerted effort to build up a stock of power arms.

1) I think Painter makes a lot of sense. He's got the kind of polish and projectability that he could very well be throwing in the high 90s in 2 years. If they went with any of Painter, Madden, Montgomery or Solometo at #1 I'd be pleased.

2) Florida State RHP Tommy Mace - good stuff now and I think room to get stronger. MLB ranks him at #45 but I gotta believe there is little chance he makes it even that far. Virginia LHP Andrew Abbott is ranked at #51, but he probably goes before then too. For a high 80's/low 90's guy his stuff sure plays with a lot of life. Great change up, very good slider, and exceptional command and competitor. Reminds me a bit of watching Cliff Lee pitch.

3) Indiana RHP McCade Brown- his stuff (breaking ball and fastball) is jaw dropping and he's got a great pitcher's body- really strongly built. MLB has him ranked 103, mostly because of command issues as far as I can tell.

BostonRoss 2021-07-02 20:33:26 UTC #190

Weird that there are two ballplayers named Maxwell Muncy. Of course, there were two Steve Ontiveroses, Ryan Brauns, Dave Stapletons, and Bill Buckners.

Squire 2021-07-06 18:51:53 UTC #191

Updated Fangraphs Mock Draft Today: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mock-draft-2-0-3/

Gives us Gunnar Hoglund:

Philadelphia Phillies
Pick: Gunnar Hoglund, RHP, Ole Miss

Hoglund is so polished that even though his career begins in the middle of a TJ rehab, he’s still likely to be one of the first players from this draft class to reach the big leagues. Benny Montgomery’s name keeps getting mentioned here by scouts with other clubs but we can’t tell if it’s something they’ve heard via industry discussion or if it’s bunk made seemingly real by early mocks putting Benny here because he’s a local kid.

bigegypt0417 2021-07-06 19:02:01 UTC #192

i'm not really sure i would say he's in the "middle" of his recovery....his surgery was in may.

I think if you're willing to wait this could be a very high upside pick but you won't see much of him until 2023...

Squire 2021-07-06 19:28:15 UTC #193

I'd be ok with Hoglund....at a slot discount. It didn't seem that they were really hearing Hoglund connected to the Phillies as much as rejecting the notion that somehow Montgomery has been connected with the Phillies.

Squire 2021-07-07 17:34:38 UTC #194

Updated Callis/Mayo Top 10 pick mock

Pirates - Marcelo Mayer, SS
Rangers - Jack Leiter, RHP
Tigers - Brady House, SS
Red Sox - Jordan Lawlar, SS
Orioles - Henry Davis, C
DBacks - Kumar Rocker, RHP
Royals - Kahlil Watson, SS
Rockies - Benny Montgomery, OF
9 Angels - Jackson Jobe, RHP
Mets - Sal Frelick, OF

So they have Matt McLain, Colton Howser, Ty Madden, Jordan Wicks, Andrew Painter, Sam Bachman, Harry Ford all available starting at 11.

allentown 2021-07-07 21:03:48 UTC #195

And Montgomery gone 3 picks earlier. And, of course, Hoglund still available. I say 'of course', because even a TJ injury carries a risk of less than full recovery.

gmwannabe 2021-07-07 23:50:48 UTC #196

Did anyone hear the pre game show last night? Franzke had on DD and they were talking about it. mentioned how much more info they have since when he started. i lost the station (must have poor signals some places in the evening) and missed the middle of the interview. i think i heard DD say that he was going to try to move up to the second spot. he said he was willing to give up Bonafacio and L miller from reading and the big Aussie 1B. Would you do it? if not, who is your preference to draft?
gm

bkox 2021-07-08 00:04:37 UTC #197

You cant move up in the MLB draft..... There is no trading of draft picks.

andyb 2021-07-08 13:53:02 UTC #198

Local kid Luke Holman working out for the Phillies at Citizen Bank Park yesterday.
https://twitter.com/PaulRobertsCuse/status/1412839526247112707

Seems like someone that might fit if we do 11th-13th round over slot HS players again. I think all the top 20 rounds can use the pool money again this year (though there is a strict limit on NDFA bonuses of $20K). Rounds 11-20 have a bonus limit of $125K beyond which the amount would apply against the overall pool. So I think we'll see the pattern of a few under slot seniors in rounds 9 and 10 and then over slot players shortly after that who would get bonuses in the $300K-$500K range. This is where we got Marcus Lee Sang ($440K, 11th) and Jadiel Sanchez ($300K, 12th) last time and this kid seems like he is rated in the 300-500 range but projectable and picking up lots of velocity in the last year.

Squire 2021-07-08 14:26:09 UTC #199

Holman is currently 205 on the BA 500 and 172 on MLBPipeline. He is a commit to University of Alabama. Seems like we would need to take him in Rounds 4-6 and maybe even sooner.

xogfog 2021-07-08 22:55:40 UTC #200

Unrelated to this years draft, but I was just reading an article about the best draft pick that every team has made on The Athletic and I was totally unaware that George Brett and Mike Schmidt were consecutive second round draft picks in 1971 (Brett 29, Schmidt 30) Have to wonder if the Phils would have taken Brett if Schmidt was off the board.

andyb 2021-07-08 23:16:04 UTC #201

Not much specific here, though Barber does not seem to shy away from high school talent in his comments.