Poll: Should Klentak be fired?

[Philsmania]

• Yes
• No
• Unsure

Show results

[julio]

Umm...Didn't we just do this, like less than 24 hours ago?

You throw up a repeat, and don't even bother to say why?

[allentown]

I didn't see the other -- I know there was a Kapler survey. I answered yes to this one.

[Philsmania]

I didn't see the other -- I know there was a Kapler survey. I answered yes to this one.

I didn't see it, either, otherwise I wouldn't have created this one.

Very early returns show yeses outpacing those for Kapler. Goes to show how this community has always viewed GM's as more important and viewed them more critically.

[zambonir]

Not a repeat that I noticed. (We did have two Kapler polls since the first one was the Google thing. Plus a fire Kapler discussion thread that is actually from last year, now revived.)

[julio]

Ah, I see - I didn't pick up the difference between Kapler and Klentak. (I wonder what that says?). My mistake - please ignore!

[zambonir]

Now we just need a poll that includes all possibilities - keep both, keep the GM, keep the manager, fire both.

[BostonRoss]

I think Wade should be fired.

[zambonir]

Fire Pete Mackanin!

[schillingfan]

I think you either keep both or fire both. If we are going to start over again, start all over. But if we don’t fire, we need to do some serious analysis about what is not working with our analytics.

[tom81]

I’d give Klentak another shot. The Athletic article paints a more negative view of Kapler IMO and I tend to think Klentak was backing his guy. When that guy fails I think he gets one do over to find the right guy. The primary reason the season fell apart was the pitching and most of that was caused by the pitching coach change and the miss use, or not really understanding the proper use of analytics. The need a better understanding to implement it better.

This part sold me on keeping Klentak if he cans Kapler.

“But team officials, according to sources, feared they would lose a competitive advantage if they let Young even interview. Kapler advocated for Young. A front office that had urged Kapler to keep Kranitz on his initial staff capitulated when faced with the possibility of losing Young. They fired Kranitz on Nov. 14, 2018.”

[zambonir]

To me that part doesn't reflect well on Klentak at all though.

A) He forced his manager to hire a pitching coach his manager didn't want in the first place.

B) Klentak, as much as if not more than Kapler, feared letting Young interview with other teams, as well as losing him.

C) The fact that Klentak was de facto Kranitz and Young's immediate superior rather than Kapler is a big reason why no players were consulted about or notified of Kranitz's firing.

[Jeff05]