Phillies Prospect Lists

[Austinfan]

Muzzioti is similar to Rojas, in that his defensive skills would make him a plus player if he's merely an average hitter. He's hard to project b/c he's missed so much time the last couple seasons - but also makes him a prime candidate for a "surprise" because he's probably more physical mature at this point - now can he translate that natural increase in strength to the plate?

[andyb]

Rojas has much more power potential compared to Muzziotti. Probably a bit faster too. He has many more ways to be a productive major leaguer even if he only has a modest hit tool. Muzziotti probably needs to hit close to .300 to make it. Rojas does not need to hit that much.

[andyb]

Matt Winkelman's entire top 50 is up here:

Phillies 2022 Top Prospect Ranking

[Philsmania]

Let's hope for an improvement of that tool this season...it would be nice for something to break our way!

Perhaps Suarez has?

[zambonir]

At this point Suarez is more a case of a depth major leaguer turning into a good one, maybe a very good one (but only maybe). He was already in the system when Amaro and Wolever were running things, made his major league debut in 2018 and was a solid bullpen piece in 2019. More of a comeback story - especially given his 2020 - than a prospect finally panning out. And perhaps a credit to the major league staff (also for a change!)

[andyb]

See the article I posted on the spring training thread about Griff McGarry. He really looks like a pitcher that has first round stuff. Maybe he is the break we needed.

[xogfog]

When McGrarry was drafted, everyone was saying he would be a late inning reliever, but that article suggests they will keep him as a starter as they seemed to fix his location consistency.

[andyb]

McGarry has 3 pitches and the makings of a 4th. He also does not seem to lose velocity in the middle innings (more based on his college career than pro). Those are attributes of a starter. Someone like Morales on the other hand only has 2 decent pitches now and loses command over longer outings. He is much more of a candidate for a bullpen switch. Imagine the Phillies give starting another half season with him and make a decision on that midseason.

[allentown]

In addition to what Andyb said, it is easier for a minor league pitcher to develop his pitches and command when pitching a starter's innings than when pitching a reliever's innings. Also, a SP just has so much more value than a comparable quality reliever that a team would be foolish to give up to soon on a guy with a chance to become an MLB starter.

Now, if the view is that a guy has a chance to be an iffy #4/5 starter but can be a plus, late-game reliever, then of course you convert him and an extra year of minor-league relieving may well launch him faster as an MLB reliever. This is where Andyb's post comes in: McGarry doesn't look like a guy who would be much better in relief (has enough pitches to start, doesn't tire quickly). If the reasonable ceilings are #3/4 starter and decent middle reliever, then the choice is clear.

[fish]

McGarry has a strong feel like the kind of guy the Dodgers pull out of a hat- a 5 or 6 inning guy with power stuff and nasty breaking balls. If you haven’t seen video of him, his stuff is fun to watch. Note to Dombrowski and the reference to MCGarry’s name popping up in trade rumors- STOP TRADING GUYS BEFORE YOU’VE SEEN THEM PLAY A FULL SEASON.

[zambonir]

Well if you read The Athletic article it says the Phillies viewed his name coming up in trade talks as a sign that they had something.

[fish]

His stuff reminds me a lot of Roy Oswalt.

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[andyb]

ESPN Organizational rankings 24th.

Kiley McDaniel's 2022 MLB farm system rankings for all 30 teams

[Squire]

Thank you Kiley. 24th likely our high water mark this off-season.

[bigegypt0417]

I'm hoping that by this time next year, the organization is somewhere in the high teens...it seems like we're due for a few guys to take a step forward.

[kmc1019]

bigegypt I hope you are right. But it has been 10 years that the Phillies have been due to have someone step up.

[Squire]

I think the point upstream about Ranger Suarez is very valid. I cannot assert that that happens in the Phillies organization more, the same or less than other organizations. But I don't recall Ranger Suarez ever being on a Top 10 Phillies list. And last year he threw 106 innings at a Cy Young level. Was it just a first year flash? Maybe but he's never going to make a top prospects list because in his first crack at the majors he blew his rookie eligibility.

[bigegypt0417]

in 2018 I believe he was at the back 10 of a few? I'm trying to look it up but most lists are behind paywalls or i'm too dumb to find them.

[bkox]

Winkleman had him ranked 18th in 2018

[Taudawg]

Ranger was #10 in mlb.com's 2019 top 30 Phillies prospects

Phillies Top Prospects

12 in 2018