Phillies Off-Season 2024-2025 (Hot Stove)

[bkeich]

I think we should consider trade offers including both Bohm and Stott. Yes, they are both young and have tons and tons of potential, but we could get some great return for both of them.
I saw a projection for a trade with Houston where we would ship off Bohm, Andrew Painter, and a prospect who I forgot the name of. Philly in return would receive Alex Bregman and Kyle Tucker.
I don't think we should do this, but should we consider it at all?

Remember the Wheeze kids? Is that what we are going for? Trying to trade 2 of the 3 young position players we have for older players (Tucker is only 27, but still older) sure sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. Not to mention this would use up any financial flexibility we have.

You need some players that are not at the top of the pay scale. Having only guys that are subject to open market pricing is too expensive and results in catastrophic penalties, not to mention high injury rates.

Stott and Bohm are probably our 2 best WAR/$ players. You need some of them.

[Austinfan]

You trade Bohm when Miller is ready.
You move Castellanos into a platoon role next year when Crawford/Ricones is ready.
Gradually working young players in and veterans out opens up cap room for strategic acquisitions.

You trade your second tier prospects who are blocked by your first tier prospects.

[zambonir]

I have no problem with trading Bohm in the right deal but given he is only two years from free agency himself he is not going to get you Kyle Tucker - the Astros will want younger cheaper players. Plus Tucker is also only going to be traded if the Astros re-sign Bregman, or at the deadline, and the Phillies would only trade Bohm for a player they get to keep for more than one year.

And then also if you trade Bohm for a good OF bat, is Sosa your 3B? If so how much better did the offense get (especially considering Sosa is as bad an offender in terms of approach as big-name RHBs on our team)?

I agree Stott is a much firmer hold. He's got one more year of control than Bohm, a ton of defensive value, and is also the type of hitter the Phillies need if he can get his offensive game back to average (literally what he was in 2023, 100 OPS+).

[zambonir]

Interview with new Phillies part-owner. Always wondered what the heck that company was that sponsors the Camdens theater. He is the sole owner.

Forbes sources at the time said his 1/6th share was bought for $455 million, putting the team's value at $2.8 billion (Forbes' own estimate at the time was $2.575; now it's 2.92).

Not much baseball talk.

Phillies’ newest owner made his fortune from home loans

[dcsman]

I'm not even sure how this would work considering Thomson is under contract.

Yankees urged to cut ties with Aaron Boone in favor of beloved Phillies skipper...

[phillychuck]

They would have to trade for him. It's been done before,

http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/index/_/id/7026341#:~:text=In%20return%2C%20they%20got%20outfielder%20Randy%20Winn%20from%20Tampa%20Bay.&text=Prior%20to%20the%201977%20season,return%20for%20catcher%20Manny%20Sanguillen.&text=In%201960%2C%20Joe%20Gordon%20was,for%20their%20manager%2C%20Jimmy%20Dykes.

[julio]

They would have to trade for him. It's been done before,

Aaron Judge?

Edit: Never mind, he's FNTC.

[zambonir]

Just make them take Walker and Castellanos.

Some seriously silly stuff. I guess putting out this kind of clickbait while the Yankees are actually still playing in the World Series means more traffic not less. What if they win?

[allentown]

Trade, them Castellanos or Walker and our manager for a couple of promising prospects who don't need Rule 5 protection, but aren't among the Yankees top prospects and call it a day. I doubt Yankees would do this, but...

[zambonir]

Of course Boone also isn't going anywhere, Yankees are expected to pick up his 2025 option.

[David_Criss]

Phillies Sign Cody Stashak To Minor League Deal

[andyb]

I believe Matt Kroon resigned also last week (minor league free agent). Good AAA depth even if he took a step backwards last year (766 OPS in Lehigh Valley). He'll be 28 next season.

[zambonir]

Ahh, it's almost the second-best time of the year.

[julio]

Ahh, it's almost the second-best time of the year.

Yep. One more Dodgers victory, and we're off...

[zambonir]

https://www.mlb.com/news/phillies-expand-ownership-group

Managing partner John Middleton announced on Friday that the Phillies have added three new investors to their limited partnership: Mitchell L. Morgan, Guntram J. Weissenberger Jr. and a third investor who wishes to remain anonymous. The Middleton and Stanley C. Middleman families will contribute additional funds to the group as well.

[andyb]

Third luxury tax tier - here we come.

[Philsmania]

Not sure I like anonymous owners.

Morgan and Weissenberger are really estate guys. Morgan also owns a piece of the Washington Commanders.

[zambonir]

Certainly makes one curious but these guys don't get much say. Bit of a throwback to the old ownership group.

The cash flow will obviously be good, not just for the luxury tax but the real estate ambitions in both FL and Philly.

[EDmuch]

I am really hoping that DD can get Rooker away from the A's without destroying our prospect pool.

[zambonir]

Not the most earth-shattering news, but news (the rest of the piece is speculation, mostly stuff we've read before).

Kolby Allard, a spot starter throughout the season, is eligible for arbitration. He will be removed from the 40-man roster before free agency begins, according to two major-league sources. The Phillies have some trimming to do on their 40-man roster. Allard will be part of those cuts.

Gelb also says Abel and Chaice are locks to be protected, Castellano probably, but McGowan, Cabrera and McGarry maybes.

I would think you have to protect McGarry, as he could wildcat his way through a season at the bottom of the roster and wouldn't necessarily be a wasted spot (in terms of not being able to help the Phillies themselves). Of course one or more of these guys could also be traded.

As free agency begins, where the Phillies’ roster stands