Former Nats/Mets/Twins/Rays/Phillies/Tigers and current Cleveland catcher Wilson Ramos, 34, had left knee surgery today (torn ACL). Additionally brutal because ... he’s already had two ACL repair surgeries on his right knee.
— James Wagner ( @ByJamesWagner ) September 15, 2021
Carson Ragsdale now tied with Cade Cavilli for the minor league lead in Ks:
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league/?pos=all&lg=2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,14,12,13,15,16,17,18,30,32,33&stats=pit&qual=y&type=0&team=&season=2021&seasonEnd=2021&org=&ind=0&splitTeam=false&players=&sort=25,12
162 in 108.2 IP. Still only Low A of course and he has a 4.31 ERA, but he does miss bats at least at that low level. Still a decent trade for the Phillies (Coonrod) so far at least.
Yeah I think most people got that reference.
He also faced the Padres this past July. 5 runs in 6 innings.
We spent a lot of time arguing over whether our terrible 5th/6th starters were just kind of of normal for 5th/6th starters, and with the Padres turning to both Arrieta and Velasquez, and the Phillies unable to even find another one, it still seems that way to me.
The Padres are probably trying to duplicate their success in bringing in ex-Phillie pitchers like Arrieta. 
While there's a point to be argued here, on the other hand, if our 'terrible' 5/6 arms were actually 'normal', why aren't they still filling those roles? Two of the three pitchers slated to do so at the season's start were later released, and the third is buried in the bullpen, only rummaged out to stand in for an inning or three in the occasional blow out loss.
I'm not in any way suggesting that the Phillies evaluation of talent is the gold standard, but the fact that all three would be removed from those roles (two from the team), suggests their performances may not have been the norm. I'd also wonder how injuries may/may not have played a role with SD's dumpster diving.
They filled them for a long time though, and it's not clear the bullpen can fill it any better (nor is it any different than using Moore as a starter really). But at least the Phillies did a better job than the Padres in upgrading, or, yes, had better injury luck (not that the Phillies had great luck, those bullpen games are actually supposed to be Eflin's. Or would still be Anderson's had they not messed up Eflin's injury status).
I will revise my statement, even though it doesn't apply to the Padres - "normal until July." You throw those 5-6-7th guys with 5.00-6.00 ERAs against the wall, and if one of them doesn't show signs of being a 4.50 guy, he's done. And if none of them do, you get new pitchers. Only the very best or very richest teams has a good Opening Day 5th starter. The problem with the Phillies is they couldn't even have a mediocre one from the farm instead of free agency.
Well, you and I might have differences with what constitutes a 'long time' (though admittedly time always seemed longer when watching VV battle through another down phase). Moore lasted three starts coming out of spring training (9.82 ERA) before being sidelined with injury. After a stint in the bullpen, he made six more starts in late-June/July (faring better with a 5.60).
Anderson made eight starts through April and May (6.96) before himself being shelved with injury. He didn't appear again until the end of July, DFA'd after three relief appearances.
Velasquez had the best go-of-it, at least until he hit the wall again in mid-June. In 13 starts beginning in late-April he posted a 3.90 ERA. In the five games after, 12.23.
I don't know what constitutes a long time, but Moore and Anderson combined for only 17 starts. Velasquez of course had more, but performed better and was a known commodity (i.e., ride the wave until it crashes).
I definitely agree that the primary issue was (is) the club's lack of depth. With Suarez and Falter the only real farm-sourced SP options this year, the Phillies were further pinned when injuries kept Suarez in the pen and Falter - well, you know. That said, while I might quibble over whether the performances of Anderson and Moore fit 'normal' for 4/5 starters, if the lack of organizational depth pushed them from 5/6/7 level into that of 4/5, I guess it could become a bit more acceptable... only not. 
Well, the "debate" I remember about the 6th starter was actually more about VV - why did we keep this guy around, why are we paying him what we are, etc. All of which is fair! I don't think they signed Moore and Anderson expecting what they got, even if only one of them worked. They wanted Anderson to be like he was in 2019 and Moore to be the next Mikolas, with VV, Howard and/or a trade deadline add ready to fill the hole or holes later.
Hindsight says they would have been better off with one good $10-12 million pitcher instead of three lousy 3-4 pitchers, but then they still would have wound up needed a fungible 5th starter. I suppose hindsight also says that they could have just used Sanchez or Medina and gotten equally terrible results for a lot less money.
Interesting saga, indeed. Technically not a rookie but for all intents and purposes, he's a 31 year old rookie (as a pitcher).
Knowing that his pitching was a big part of his HS prospect status, one wonders whether the decision to develop a player 2-way for the first few years would have been the right thing to do here. The Reds kind of tried it with Michael Lorenzen (though they have also backed off that the last couple of years),
If Gose had been developed as a left-handed reliever who could also be an extra guy on the bench to play OF defense or pinch run in an emergency that would have enhanced his value. I guess the Phillies of that era would have been the last organization to make that developmental decision of course. Not even sure the Phillies today would consider it.