GDT 8/10/20 Atlanta Braves (Newcomb) @ Philadelphia Phillies (Nola)

[kikutaro]

Marcell Ozuna

In play, run(s) (80.1 mph knuckle curve)

Marcell Ozuna out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder Roman Quinn. Adeiny Hechavarria scores. Charlie Culberson to 3rd.

Philadelphia Phillies 13 - Atlanta Braves 4

[julio]

Franzke reports Trevor Kelly is getting loose. Away we go...

[kikutaro]

Travis d'Arnaud

Called strike (93.8 mph four-seam fastball)
Foul (81.5 mph knuckle curve)
In play, run(s) (93.2 mph four-seam fastball)

Travis d'Arnaud doubles (4) on a ground ball to right fielder Adam Haseley. Charlie Culberson scores.

Philadelphia Phillies 13 - Atlanta Braves 5

[kikutaro]

Nick Markakis

Mound Visit.
Foul tip (92.4 mph four-seam fastball)
Ball (92.7 mph four-seam fastball)
Ball (84.8 mph changeup)
Ball (91.9 mph four-seam fastball)
Foul (92.8 mph four-seam fastball)
In play, run(s) (80.2 mph knuckle curve)

Nick Markakis doubles (1) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Adam Haseley. Travis d'Arnaud scores.

Philadelphia Phillies 13 - Atlanta Braves 6

[julio]

Nick Pivetta coming on to pitch the top of the ninth. With a 12-run lead, I guess that's not TOO scary...

OK, this one's on me. Classic black cat. My bad!

Pivetta is leaving the game. He should be grateful he's not being DFA'ed.

[zambonir]

Wow, Pivetta might actually be broken. I really did think the new manager and coach might help him, because they obviously clashed last year, but he's either lost his stuff or he just never got over being on the yo-yo.

[julio]

God help us. Franzke reports that Hector Neris is now in the 'pen, and starting to throw.

This in a game where they entered the ninth with a 12-run lead.

[LoneStarPhan]

Nick Pivetta coming on to pitch the top of the ninth. With a 12-run lead, I guess that's not TOO scary...

Yes, one would think so.

A home run, two singles, three doubles later and I'd say I'm pretty unhappy with Pavetta.

Neris is loosening up. Even thinking of your closer going into the ninth with a 12 run lead is not acceptable.

[kikutaro]

Adam Duvall

Mound Visit.
Pitching Change: Trevor Kelley replaces Nick Pivetta.
Foul (90. mph sinker)
Called strike (79.1 mph curveball)
Swinging strike (78. mph curveball)

Adam Duvall strikes out swinging.

[kikutaro]

Austin Riley

Called strike (78.1 mph curveball)
Ball (84.6 mph slider)
Wild pitch by pitcher Trevor Kelley. Nick Markakis to 3rd.
Foul (79.2 mph curveball)
Ball (79.1 mph curveball)
Foul (90.5 mph sinker)
In play, run(s) (78.6 mph curveball)

Austin Riley homers (3) on a line drive to center field. Nick Markakis scores.

Philadelphia Phillies 13 - Atlanta Braves 8

[julio]

So, we have a five-run lead, with two out and nobody on base in the ninth inning. It's still not a save situation.

But geez...

[kikutaro]

Johan Camargo

Ball (90.9 mph sinker)
Ball (90.2 mph sinker)
Foul (89.8 mph sinker)
Foul (90.7 mph sinker)
Ball (90.9 mph sinker)
In play, out(s) (83.9 mph slider)

Johan Camargo grounds out to first baseman J. T. Realmuto.

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
Atlanta Braves	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	7	8	9	1
Philadelphia Phillies	3	7	0	2	1	0	0	0		13	14	0

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Current Batters

Atlanta Braves

Hitters	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	HR	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Ronald Acuna Jr. CF	2	0	0	0	0	1	0	.258	.372	.515	.887
Ender Inciarte CF	2	1	1	0	0	0	0	.189	.302	.243	.546
Dansby Swanson SS	2	0	0	0	0	2	0	.273	.324	.424	.748
Adeiny Hechavarria SS	2	1	1	0	0	1	0	.211	.211	.211	.421
Freddie Freeman 1B	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	.267	.371	.533	.905
Charlie Culberson 1B	2	1	1	1	0	1	0	.167	.167	.333	.500
Marcell Ozuna DH	3	0	0	1	0	1	0	.262	.370	.475	.845
Travis d'Arnaud C	4	2	2	2	0	0	1	.400	.406	.733	1.140
Nick Markakis RF	3	1	1	1	1	0	0	.250	.333	.500	.833
Adam Duvall LF	4	0	0	0	0	3	0	.281	.333	.531	.865
Austin Riley 3B	4	1	2	2	0	1	1	.167	.234	.405	.639
Johan Camargo 2B	4	1	1	1	0	1	1	.182	.250	.364	.614
Sean Newcomb P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Robbie Erlin P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Grant Dayton P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Shane Greene P								.000	.000	.000	.000
A.J. Minter P								.000	.000	.000	.000

Philadelphia Phillies

Hitters	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	HR	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Phil Gosselin 2B	4	2	2	0	1	0	0	.471	.571	.941	1.513
Rhys Hoskins 1B	3	2	1	0	1	0	0	.188	.435	.250	.685
Andrew Knapp C	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	.500	.600	.500	1.100
Bryce Harper RF	3	3	2	3	0	1	1	.303	.465	.606	1.071
Adam Haseley RF	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	.389	.389	.500	.889
J.T. Realmuto 1B	5	2	2	3	0	1	1	.306	.359	.722	1.081
Didi Gregorius SS	4	1	1	4	0	2	1	.263	.300	.500	.800
Neil Walker 3B	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	.182	.250	.273	.523
Jean Segura SS	3	1	1	1	2	1	1	.188	.333	.281	.615
Trevor Kelley P	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Jay Bruce LF	5	0	0	0	0	2	0	.214	.290	.571	.862
Scott Kingery SS	4	1	1	0	0	1	0	.114	.184	.114	.298
Roman Quinn CF	4	1	3	1	0	1	1	.304	.333	.609	.942
Aaron Nola P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Nick Pivetta P								.000	.000	.000	.000

Current Pitchers

Atlanta Braves

Pitchers	IP	H	R	ER	BB	K	HR	P-K	ERA
Sean Newcomb	1.1	6	8	8	2	1	2	47-24	11.20
Robbie Erlin	2.2	4	4	4	0	5	3	43-30	9.00
Grant Dayton	2.0	3	1	0	2	3	0	51-30	2.16
Shane Greene	1.0	1	0	0	0	0	0	6-4	0.00
A.J. Minter	1.0	0	0	0	0	1	0	11-9	1.35

Philadelphia Phillies

Pitchers	IP	H	R	ER	BB	K	HR	P-K	ERA
Aaron Nola	8.0	2	1	1	1	10	1	89-63	2.79
Nick Pivetta	0.1	6	6	6	0	0	1	29-19	15.88
Trevor Kelley	0.2	1	1	1	0	1	1	15-10	10.80

[donaldorc]

If there is a worse bullpen in the universe, I don't know where it is.

[LoneStarPhan]

Absolutely Pathetic performance again by the bullpen.

I think I heard them say that the pen has given up 34 earned runs in just over 30 innings. NINE home runs off our bullpen so far this season.

I would option Pavetta to the ATS immediately.

What should have been a great win and a happy night turns out to be a win, but one clouded with that total collapse of the bullpen in the ninth inning.

Phillies split a series with the Braves. We really need to do well with the Orioles.

[David_Criss]

Less than 2-years ago Pivetta and DLS were arms some of us envisioned being the bait in a big ticket trade and now........DLS has been designated and Pivetta looks beyond lost. And we are still waiting for VV to pitch beyond 4-innings.

[LoneStarPhan]

There comes a point when potential no longer is enough.

[zambonir]

De Los Santos was always marginal (and marginalized), even when he was still on prospects lists (which I believe he still is). AAA depth starter and they never got serious about him as a reliever. They simply stopped believing he could get major league hitters out, I think. With this bullpen you would have thought he could have won a spot this season, instead he couldn't even get an inning during someone's paternity leave.

Pivetta was never that hot a prospect either, he was a perfectly nice get for Papelbon, but his stuff and his first half of 2018 sure got our hopes up. But at this point you have to view him as a half-season wonder who hasn't been resilient enough to bounce back or adjust to a new role. Trading him for a reliever would have been the way to go, though what you got for him might not have been any better than Trevor Kelley. Whatever they thought they knew about his FIP in 2018 has certainly not panned out.

Looking back it's kind of laughable to think last year's team was supposed to win 90 games (or at least, the manager got fired for not doing so) with Pivetta, Eickhoff, Vargas and Smyly all making more than 10 starts. At least Vinny and Arrieta were .500 pitchers.

[zambonir]

The implication of this story is that Pivetta was going to take exception to being asked to pitch outside of his accustomed role (even though he doesn't really have one)... or feel like he was too good to mop up a 13-1 game.

Phillies blast five home runs, hang on in ninth inning to gain series split with...

the most talked-about image from the game was Girardi calling down to the bullpen to speak with Pivetta (usually the bullpen coach relays a manager’s message to pitchers) in the eighth inning before he warmed up to come into a 13-1 game.

By then, although Nola’s pitch count would wind up at only 89, Girardi decided to trust the bullpen with a 12-run lead. Specifically, he wanted to put it in Pivetta’s hands, even though the converted starter is usually a multi-inning reliever who doesn’t often appear in mop-up situations.

“It was nothing really enlightening, but I just wanted to explain to him why I was bringing him in this game,” Girardi said. “Because he hasn’t pitched for five days and I thought he needed to pitch.”

[gmwannabe]

i would agree to send him down to allentown. i would not get rid of him though. he still has a decent arm and has not had any injuries (that I know if). hopefully a pitching coach can work with him to get another pitch and to get a different grip to get movement on his fastball. unless, he is not receptive to the suggestions. Still young enough. i just would hate to see them release him and another team pick him up and he becomes successful due to a different pitching coach and approach.
gm

[el-pietro]

Thats interesting. Pivetta had issues last year in accepting that he needed to go to Lehigh Valley to work on things. I wonder if he has an inflated sense of self worth hat is completely at odds with the results he has been getting.

Watching the game last night two things jumped out at me about his performance, one his velocity was down. Typically his fastball averages between 94.5 and 95.5 MPH. Last night he was floating around 93.5 MPH
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=601713&time=&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=08/11/2020&s_type=2

Secondly, he looked really slim to me, I don't know if that is real or my eyes/memory playing tricks on me.

I think he needs to go back to LHV and figure out his mechanics. I'm not ready to give up on him yet, but I am quickly losing patience. Let him work with a coach in LHV and see if they can figure out what he was doing wrong last night, can he get back up to 95, or even add a mile or two.

I have no interest in seeing Trevor Kelly again.

I can imagine some being upset that they took Nola out with 90 pitches, but you have to be able to trust the back end of the bullpen with a 12 run lead. Its crazy how bad they have been as a unit. There are currently 15 pitchers on the active roster, 6 of whom are starters for now. I'm fairly confident in each of those 6 and their ability to keep a game within reach more often than not. Of the remaining 9 relievers we have 4 who I think we can trust to be competent or better, even if they will have occasional bad outings. Neris, Alvarez, Morgan and Hunter have all established themselves as major league relievers, and I think we can forgive Morgan and Hunter their bad outings this year, especially as Hunter bounced back.

The rest of the bullpen though?! 7 other relievers have appeared in games this year, they have completed 34.7% of the total innings, and given up 51.5% of the hits and 61.8% of the earned runs.

Starters WHIP 1.05, "Good" relievers WHIP 1.40, "Bad" Relievers WHIP 2.16, bringing the Pen as a whole to 1.9 - assuming I calculated this correctly.
Starters Hits Per 9 7.3. Good Relievers 9.9, Bad Relievers 16.9, Bullpen as a whole 14.6.
How can a bullpen be this bad. I know its early and small sample size applies, but after tonights game we will have completed 20% of the season.