GDT 6/12/23 Philadelphia Phillies (Strahm) @ Arizona Diamondbacks (Henry)

[Patchmk88]

Man a roller coaster of emotions.

[Patchmk88]

The Phillies have to figure out this 5th starter spot. 8 runs is plenty but these bullpen games feel unwinnable.

[kikutaro]

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
Philadelphia Phillies	0	1	4	0	0	0	2	0	1	8	13	0
Arizona Diamondbacks	1	0	2	2	0	4	0	0		9	12	0

Final

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Philadelphia Phillies

Hitters	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	HR	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Kyle Schwarber LF	4	1	1	0	1	1	0	.172	.324	.427	.751
Trea Turner SS	4	1	0	0	1	1	0	.245	.289	.391	.680
Nick Castellanos RF	4	1	2	0	1	1	0	.315	.362	.498	.860
Bryce Harper DH	5	1	1	1	0	3	0	.295	.392	.442	.834
J.T. Realmuto C	4	3	4	3	1	0	1	.256	.304	.460	.764
Alec Bohm 1B	5	1	2	2	0	0	0	.263	.317	.400	.717
Josh Harrison 3B	4	0	2	1	1	0	0	.211	.260	.282	.542
Edmundo Sosa 3B	3	0	0	0	0	2	0	.250	.269	.386	.655
Bryson Stott 2B	2	0	1	1	0	0	0	.294	.337	.404	.741
Dalton Guthrie CF	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	.130	.259	.174	.433
Kody Clemens PH	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	.267	.321	.436	.757
Matt Strahm P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Yunior Marte P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Dylan Covey P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Andrew Vasquez P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Jeff Hoffman P								.000	.000	.000	.000

Arizona Diamondbacks

Hitters	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	HR	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Ketel Marte 2B	5	3	3	0	0	0	0	.280	.350	.473	.823
Emmanuel Rivera 3B	4	2	2	2	0	2	0	.361	.391	.472	.863
Corbin Carroll LF	3	2	2	1	0	1	0	.313	.397	.589	.986
Christian Walker 1B	4	0	0	0	1	1	0	.248	.313	.466	.779
Evan Longoria DH	3	1	1	4	0	1	1	.226	.276	.538	.814
Pavin Smith RF	3	0	1	2	1	0	0	.212	.320	.384	.704
Carson Kelly C	3	0	0	0	1	1	0	.000	.250	.000	.250
Geraldo Perdomo SS	4	0	0	0	0	1	0	.284	.387	.459	.846
Jake McCarthy CF	4	1	3	0	0	0	0	.211	.287	.294	.581
Tommy Henry P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Drey Jameson P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Austin Adams P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Andrew Chafin P								.000	.000	.000	.000
Miguel Castro P								.000	.000	.000	.000

Philadelphia Phillies

Pitchers	IP	H	R	ER	BB	K	HR	P-K	ERA
Matt Strahm	2.2	4	3	3	1	1	0	50-34	4.00
Yunior Marte	1.1	3	2	2	0	2	0	25-18	7.71
Dylan Covey (L, 1-2)	1.1	2	2	2	1	2	0	35-20	7.71
Andrew Vasquez	1.2	3	2	2	1	0	1	34-20	1.78
Jeff Hoffman	1.0	0	0	0	0	2	0	14-8	2.77

Arizona Diamondbacks

Pitchers	IP	H	R	ER	BB	K	HR	P-K	ERA
Tommy Henry	4.2	9	5	5	1	6	1	85-57	4.86
Drey Jameson (W, 3-1)	2.0	1	2	2	2	1	0	33-20	4.13
Austin Adams (H, 6)	0.1	1	0	0	1	0	0	16-9	1.42
Andrew Chafin (H, 9)	1.0	0	0	0	1	1	0	17-8	3.04
Miguel Castro (S, 7)	1.0	2	1	1	0	1	0	24-14	3.95

[HopeSpringsEternal]

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[LoneStarPhan]

Gameday stuck on 10-9.

Really a let down after it looked like a tremendous come back after letting the Diamondbacks come back and take a commanding lead.

Offense scores 8 and leaves 6 on base in final 3 innings. Definitely not a good night for pitching. Phillies have to add someone to be the fifth starter.

Somehow, this just seems like it should have been a win. Phillies need to come back and win the next couple.

It may have been the two HBP by Strahm that made the difference in this game.

[BaseballCat]

That was highly disappointing 🫨

[Callison]

Looks like the second HBP is even more costly.

The statement, "I don't know where I am." Just awful.

[Callison]

It may have been the two HBP by Strahm that made the difference in this game.

Just AWFUL!!!!! No guts is not enough. I was really hoping from more from Strahm, but as others mentioned, he is a known, and pitched as he has most of the season. He could at least have hit him in the ribs.

After the phlogging serpiente got hit twice, he figures the Phils book says to pitch him inside, and so he nails an insider for a triple.

Tough loss.

[zambonir]

Man if i hadn't seen the score already that "home run" from the bot would have been rather deceptive.

5-12 with RISP and a cycle, on any night with pitching that would have been incredible. But I believe the Phillies have won more bullpen games than they ever did with Falter (if not by much). No reason to think Sanchez or Nelson would be better especially not as actual starters but one of them is bound to get the call. Having to burn Strahm in these games is also not ideal.

[bkeich]

Wow, I got all excited reading the thread. I should have just stopped with the Clemons at bat post and not read further.

[Philsmania]

Covey must have one heck of an arm which makes the Phillies PTB drool. That's the only reason I can think of why the still keep clinging to him.

[andyb]

The issue with Strahm was really the 3rd inning. I figure they wanted him to get through Carroll a second time and the pitch count was not awful. But it was only 2 days rest and he was not good the last time out. To get him to face a good lineup a second time on relatively short rest was just wishful thinking. This was probably a game where they should have tried to get more out of Covey. And maybe Hoffman should have been penciled in for a second inning.

I know the manager does not have many options with bullpen games, but the GM really should give him a pitcher capable of 3 innings. Covey of course is capable, we just might need a quantum computer to tally up the runs if he is left in that long. Reality is that all of Falter and Sanchez and Nelson (when healthy) are likely better than Covey. They are 5+ ERA pitchers, not 7+ ERA pitchers.

[gmwannabe]

Where's Marty Bystrom when you need him!
gm

[zambonir]

Clearly they are just not happy with what Sanchez has shown, or know he isn't fully recovered from his injury/delayed start. They never seemed sure about what role they wanted him in this year either (though right now it's the same role regardless of what you call it).

[bkox]

While there is no harm in giving Sanchez a shot... the truth of the matter is.. hes now 26yo. has a 5.53 ERA and 1,461 WHIP over 57 MLB innings.

But whats worse. Hes had two good minor leeague seasons. One in 2019 in single A and Last year at AAA after repeating the level. Over 9 NINE! minor league seasons he has a career minor league ERA 4.36 and 1.431 WHIP over 450 minor league innings

[andyb]

Clearly the team messed up in not adding another AAAA starter or two in the offseason. The other side is that no matter how bad Sanchez has been, Covey is worse. Frankly I'd just get a couple of innings out of Luis Ortiz now if we deem Sanchez and Falter not ready.

[zambonir]

So you're saying we didn't win the trade

[schillingfan]

In retrospect it wasn’t a horrible game. It was nice to see the come back, rather than the listless way the play when they aren’t hitting.

I guess we learned that we have some bad bullpen arms, for the front (back?) of the pen, which is okay if you have a fifth starter.

[zambonir]

Unless he's hurt or overused Strahm isn't bad but being a 6-out pitcher is not the same thing as being a three-inning pitcher.

But it's true, usually your staff has one mediocre long man (your David Hales, or Nick Nelson at his worst) and one mediocre-to-poor fifth starter. Covey is probably worse than both of those things and Falter was never better than a #6. Plus in a bullpen game guys you would only pitch when your team is trailing and/or your starter gets rocked early actually pitch in winnable games.