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Apr 2024

Nolan Gorman

Called strike (98.7 mph sinker)
Ball (98.7 mph sinker)
Called strike (98.1 mph sinker)
Swinging strike (98.6 mph four-seam fastball)

Nolan Gorman strikes out swinging.

It would be fascinating/disappointing of Thomson still liked Soto better here because he's a proven closer, even though Strahm is a better pitcher.

Well, almost there.

Nolan Arenado

Ball (85.9 mph slider)
Foul (98.3 mph sinker)
Foul (97.1 mph sinker)
Ball in dirt (90.4 mph slider)
Foul tip (99.5 mph four-seam fastball)

Nolan Arenado strikes out on a foul tip.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 R H E
Philadelphia Phillies 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 2 5 10 0
St. Louis Cardinals 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 3 6 1

Current Batters

Philadelphia Phillies

Hitters AB R H RBI BB K HR AVG OBP SLG OPS
Kyle Schwarber DH 5 0 0 0 0 1 0 .220 .289 .366 .655
Cristian Pache DH 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .250 .000 .250
Trea Turner SS 5 0 3 1 0 0 0 .268 .318 .317 .635
Bryce Harper 1B 3 1 0 0 2 0 0 .265 .359 .588 .947
Alec Bohm 3B 4 0 1 1 1 0 0 .235 .350 .353 .703
Bryson Stott 2B 4 0 0 1 0 1 0 .200 .324 .233 .557
Nick Castellanos RF 5 0 0 0 0 1 0 .114 .244 .114 .358
Brandon Marsh LF 4 2 2 1 0 1 1 .310 .323 .621 .944
Garrett Stubbs C 4 1 1 0 0 1 0 .286 .375 .286 .661
Johan Rojas CF 4 0 3 1 0 0 0 .154 .241 .192 .433
Spencer Turnbull P .000 .000 .000 .000
Seranthony Domínguez P .000 .000 .000 .000
José Alvarado P .000 .000 .000 .000
Jeff Hoffman P .000 .000 .000 .000
Gregory Soto P .000 .000 .000 .000

St. Louis Cardinals

Hitters AB R H RBI BB K HR AVG OBP SLG OPS
Brendan Donovan LF 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 .278 .422 .472 .894
Paul Goldschmidt 1B 5 0 1 0 0 2 0 .200 .319 .275 .594
Nolan Gorman 2B 5 0 0 0 0 2 0 .195 .267 .390 .657
Nolan Arenado 3B 5 0 1 0 0 3 0 .261 .271 .326 .597
Iván Herrera C 3 2 1 1 1 1 1 .304 .308 .565 .873
Alec Burleson DH 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 .182 .206 .242 .448
Michael Siani DH 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 .143 .333 .429 .762
Jordan Walker RF 2 0 0 1 1 2 0 .182 .263 .273 .536
Masyn Winn SS 4 0 2 1 0 0 0 .333 .344 .400 .744
Victor Scott II CF 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 .077 .163 .128 .291
Miles Mikolas P .000 .000 .000 .000
Matthew Liberatore P .000 .000 .000 .000
Giovanny Gallegos P .000 .000 .000 .000
Andre Pallante P .000 .000 .000 .000
Ryan Helsley P .000 .000 .000 .000
Current Pitchers

Philadelphia Phillies

Pitchers IP H R ER BB K HR P-K ERA
Spencer Turnbull 6.0 2 0 0 1 6 0 82-53 0.00
Seranthony Domínguez 1.0 1 1 1 0 1 1 14-9 7.71
José Alvarado 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 0 23-14 7.94
Jeff Hoffman 1.0 2 2 2 1 1 0 25-14 3.38
Gregory Soto 1.0 1 0 0 0 2 0 20-11 0.00

St. Louis Cardinals

Pitchers IP H R ER BB K HR P-K ERA
Miles Mikolas 6.2 6 2 2 2 3 0 89-62 4.76
Matthew Liberatore 1.2 1 0 0 0 1 0 18-13 3.86
Giovanny Gallegos 0.1 2 1 1 0 1 1 17-11 3.38
Andre Pallante 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2-2 5.40
Ryan Helsley 1.0 1 2 1 1 0 0 10-8 4.50

Hoffman was our worst pitcher in the game. He gets the win.

Soto did just fine!

I don't think that Thomson used Soto because he thinks he is a proven closer. Or he could have used him an inning earlier. But you may be right that he wants to see how Soto does in these types of situations, and that could have been a contributing factor in his choice.

That is Turnbull's win, I reckon. That seems like as good a solution as any - just don't let relievers earn wins at all. If the starter leaves with a lead and his team still wins the game, he gets one. Holds and saves and blown saves still tell enough of a story for the reliever (and if the Cardinals had won the game their reliever could have gotten a W).

I noticed that the other night too, briefly wondered if the incumbent had changed his mind.

Some positives to take away tonight:
*Great outing from Turnbull.
*Dogged determination coming back to win in ten after the blown save in the 9th
*3 hit nights from Turner and Rojas
*Home run from Marsh
*Soto getting the save after Hoffman blows the save in the 9th

Team back at .500 again. Time to move out of the mediocre and pile up some wins over .500.

Gonna be really interesting to face the Pirates (currently 9-2) at home. But win this road series first.

Hoffman was pretty unlucky in the ninth, actually. Good win, winning takes the sting out of the blown save.

Rojas now with a higher BA and OPS than Castellanos. Does Casty have options? (kidding.. I know he cant be optioned)

Well, he'd probably clear waivers, think he'd refuse the assignment? :slight_smile:

This is still a guy who made the All-Star team last year and had a .788 OPS even after a less impressive second half. I'm not a fan, it was a terrible signing, and his bat has to be close to elite to make up for him even being in the field (which is now what he was supposed to do when they signed him) but he's probably not cooked either. We don't even get to complain about his terrible NLCS if he doesn't help get them into that round to begin with.

Castellanos and Walker are $43M? of potential dead weight the next three seasons.
Right now, Turnbull looks as good or better than Walker did at his best last season.
Anyone from Lehigh could probably out hit Castellanos.

I'm sure Castellanos will turn it around to some extent, but the league has his number, it's not that he's in a slump, since the second half of last season, he's looked like the age curve and lack of discipline have conspired to make him a replacement level player at best. He's 32, an age when players of his caliber approach the cliff.

The crazy thing is who was dumb enough to offer that contract;

RC+ the four years before signing: 129, 122, 98, 140, they signed him off his career season at 29 years old - anyone with a brain would have known he was unlikely to repeat that year - the 4 year average at 122 was a more reasonable expectation. With his below par fielding, that made him a 2 WAR player, worth maybe $15M a year on a 3 year deal. Signing him past age 32 was a horrid mistake.

First two Phillies seasons, RC+ 94, 109, total WAR 0.8, barely above replacement.
This season, I doubt he cracks 100, Next two seasons, just write off the money.

You need to find a LH hitting platoon partner for Casty until he learns to lay off the low-and-away breaking pitches (at least a little bit...). Cave? Clemens? It looks like Pasche isn't going to play very much at all, so that is a wasted roster spot.

Nick was a real blind spot for Dombrowski due to their history in Detroit. He was unexpectedly available and Middleton signed off on exceeding the luxury tax, but the idea that Nick was the player to go all-in on - and with an extra year compared to Schwarber - never made sense, and it's not like his presence is really what elevated the '22 or '23 teams, even if he was okay last year. The injuries and the Harper move also haven't helped as he and Schwarber would have originally just split LF and DH.

AF, if 2.0 WAR is worth $15 million than Walker is properly compensated. Too soon to write him off. And if Turnbull's for real and the Phillies stay healthy/deep enough, even a league-average Walker will have deadline trade value (albeit with the Phillies picking up a lot of salary).

Jake Cave works for the Colorado Rockies now PC! They do have to eventually replace Pache with a LHB if Rojas sticks (and last night's certainly a big step towards sealing that) but I doubt Thomson is in any hurry to make Nick the short side of a platoon.

Even just a LHB/CF who can't hit much would make more sense given that both Rojas and Castellanos are RHBs (as is Merrifield).

Complaining about Castellanos' contract won't change the fact that he is here. Pretty sure this board was universal that it was an overpay and would also likely create a DH logjam (before Harper's injuries). So let's move on and discuss what the Phillies should do today. And if Castellanos can get up to a 780 OPS again then we probably don't have any better alternatives.

Walker is also a fairly valued contract. Sometimes pitchers get hurt and that is why you need more of them. Turnbull is also a 31-year-old pitcher with a career of mediocrity (4.39 ERA, 8.4/3.4 K/BB ratio). Fine as a back end 6th starter but I am not buying a renaissance based on 2 starts in cold weather in a league unfamiliar with him. All his stuff moves, but he does not command it well and most of the movement is in the same direction (so more exposure could have lesser results). I like having him as insurance, but I'd still bet Walker contributes more positively by the end of the season.

Turnbull looked better to me this time than the last. He pitches like that and he stays in the rotation. It's only two games, but he looks for real, IMHO. I really like the Phils' strategy of amassing a bunch of pitchers with upsides and waiting for one or two of them to get their rhythm. Like Turnbull. And like Pinto, the reincarnation of Bruce Sutter. I can hardly wait to see him pitch again. Closer candidate, though Big Rob, the man of mystery, seems to prefer to decide who closes by considering the matchups. But today I expect Pinto to win it anyway.

Really glad to see Rojas hit. Today, he's up, up, up all the way up to .154!!! But the hitting today SHOWS he learning the new approach. Also taking a walk now and then. Last season he was so aggressive, I doubt he walked much. Haven't seen him bunt yet. Last season he may have set a record for popping up bunt attempts, showing lack of coaching. Nice diving catch early in the game, too, but everybody expects All Star D from him.

The Casty problem is getting bigger. The Phils seem to think, well, he's a pro, he can see what's happening and he'll go correct it. Hasn't happened. The Phils' coaches need to come up with an approach. Maybe wait on him another half a season. No big improvement, sign some LH OF hitter that can take up the slack. That's two players for one position, not what you'd want to do, but what you may have to do. Hope Casty gets it together.

After all the consistency Hoffman showed last season, he's come up with back-to-back disasters. What IS it???

Pache got a start and responded with an 0 - 2. Buried talent.

JT seems to like #4.

I never thought I would say this, but let Soto play a few games at 2B while Stott finds his swing.

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