Eagles 2024-2025 Season

[LegoDoom]

As I said, Hurts has done very well running on broken plays where his receivers aren't sufficiently open and the pass rush has overplayed its hand and given him an escape route. He has also occasionally done well on planned QB draws. What I am complaining about are his RPO run decisions. His overall RPO run performance is poor and when he turns the run into a pass, we get a penalty for a lineman down field. The RPO, just like the hurry-up offense that a prior Eagle's team initially had great success with, has been successfully countered by opposing defenses and is not longer a plus.

It is indisputable that Hurts holds the ball significantly longer than other QBs and that he takes sacks and negative plays as a result. It's my speculation, but I think the RPO detracts Hurts from focusing on receiver routes and pass defense. It also makes the O-line tentative. Or, just abandon the 3rd RPO option where Hurts keeps the ball himself and tries tor tun. That is an overall loser now that the opposing teams have compensated.

Yes, with Saquon thee Eagles are and should be more run heavy. But there is a developing problem with the Eagles passing game, just as there is a severe problem with their overall offense in the first quarter and sometimes the whole first half.

The Eagles want a Super Bowl. That's not going to happen if the current problems aren't fixed. You won't beat Detroit with a good offense for only half of the game and the D will also suffer from being left on the field too long.

Close your eyes and hum, if you wish, but there actually is a problem.

Define significantly. Hurts time before a throw is 2.7. Purdy is 2.6.

Didn't Hurts throw a TD off the RPO on Sunday?

Hurts can definitely throw the ball. I'm not sure what this is other than AJB being a child.

[LegoDoom]

I also don't think Hurts is injured. He had an ankle injury which can very much mess with mechanics. But he looked fine running on Sunday to the point that I don't think it's bothering him right now.

[LegoDoom]

Fans are asking Hurts to get rid of the ball quicker and also throw down field more. You can't do both.

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

110 Passer Rating the last 9 games. That is bad? 1 interception in 10 games.

You don't lose Passer Rating points if you don't throw the ball. Hurts can't put up numbers like Josh Allen in this offense, nor does he need to. He needs to see open targets and throw to some of those targets.

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

He needs to get rid of the ball quicker on RPOs and throw down field during some of the pass plays.

[jimbomill]

He is being overly conservative, no doubt, but maybe that is by design. Perhaps he has been told that with the #1 defense and #1 Rushing attack in the league a punt is better than a chance of interception

If Hurts was told that design, so also would the receivers (and likely the entire team). I would expect no griping if that were by design.

[zambonir]

Well, I would expect griping, but it would be at the coaches not the QB.

[bkeich]

Well, I would expect griping, but it would be at the coaches not the QB.

Yes, but if you were the coaching staff would you really say to WR “the ball is only coming to you if you are very open”. Keep in mind EVERY Prima Donna in the league is a WR. For 30 years. All you tell these guys is that they really are as wonderful as their Mom’s told them they are and that they should catch 60 passes every game.

[LegoDoom]

I mean, is calling out the coaches better?

Sirianni even backs AJB off here.

AJB wants the ball more. BG pretty much said that Hurts is trying get the ball to everyone. Yes, WRs are divas. It seems like fans want Hurts to be perfect. It's such an unrealistic expectation.

Recent chatter has suggested that Kellen won't script 1st quarter plays which are obviously not working.

[bkeich]

If the Steelers DC has any clue he will have 5 guys covering AJ Brown on our first offensive play this week. I pretty much guarantee at least 1 pass is coming his way in our first possession.

[LegoDoom]

I think that's what will happen, but I kind of wish Hurts doesn't look his way.

AJB has said that his comments weren't directed to Hurts. So now he's blaming the OC and the OL?

Please just stop talking.

[phillychuck]

AJ Brown was fine talking. He said the passing game was off for a lot of reasons, including receivers not running good routes, Hurts getting pressure, receivers not reacting to coverage or scrambles, plays not fitting the defense, and Hurts missing reads. He said they need to be better and they are all working toward that end. He took some responsibility himself and called on everyone ot up their game. Not a bad way to lead.

[LegoDoom]

AJ Brown was fine talking. He said the passing game was off for a lot of reasons, including receivers not running good routes, Hurts getting pressure, receivers not reacting to coverage or scrambles, plays not fitting the defense, and Hurts missing reads. He said they need to be better and they are all working toward that end. He took some responsibility himself and called on everyone ot up their game. Not a bad way to lead.

This is what he said directly after the game? It might be as I certainly didn't see all of the video.

If it's not, I didn't see him blaming himself for it. So he was either blaming the QB, other players, or the coordinators.

He gives up on plays or breaks off routes. As talented as he is, he's also a problem.

[LegoDoom]

Again, this is an AJB problem.

The team brought on an elite RB when everyone wants to run it more with an elite OL. Is anyone complaining about this except for AJB. Hurts has already put up 300 yards and 4 TDs in a SB. The team is playing well. Is anyone else complaining about this?

[zambonir]

It's stuff he has said since the game. The whole thing has blown over for now.

It's still the worst passing offense in the NFL. It has to be better when the games get bigger. It almost wasn't good enough to beat the Panthers. That's why all the drama.

[LegoDoom]

It's stuff he has said since the game. The whole thing has blown over for now.

It's still the worst passing offense in the NFL. It has to be better when the games get bigger. It almost wasn't good enough to beat the Panthers. That's why all the drama.

Why does it have to be better? The narrative was that the team was doing well when the schedule was easy. They are now in the tough part of the schedule and... winning.

It was addressed after the initial comment because it needed to be. Calling AJB a leader because of it is ridiculous.

[allentown]

They are now in the tough part of the schedule and... winning.

The last game was against a poor team which is near worst-on-league in run defense. We barely won and it was among our worst run offense games of the season. The problem was that our passing game wasn't threatening enough to stop them from stacking their D against the run. This was a game in which their best defensive lineman and pass rush specialist was out. The pass game ddefinitely was a problem last Sunday.

[phillychuck]

The people who are in the locker room regularly and actually know the players (Zach B, Bo, McManus, McLane) all were positive about Brown's responses to the controversy and said (paraphrasing) that if you want to actually get better, players and coaches have to be willing to point out what isn't working well. They thought AJ was helping that process along, not hurting it.

Everyone has their own take on this, but I personally side with Berman who agreed on the PHLY pod with AJ's position, "“We’re not in it for feelings. We’re not trying to hold everyone’s hand. We’re going out here trying to do a job and we’re holding everyone accountable. …We’re not in it for feelings. We’re trying to hold a Lombardi. That’s the end goal."

[zambonir]

I don't actually think anyone is in disagreement in the locker room at this point. Emotions wouldn't have run high - after a win - if anyone was happy with the offense. Jalen wasn't happy with himself either. A communication problem (including Graham creating more of one) had a communication solution. If that's not the case I guess the results will tell us.

It is great that this team can win some lower-scoring games and beat both some good teams and some bad teams and some okay teams with the current offensive mix. The goals is to get them to another level that will be needed in the NFC championship game or SB - and possibly in the next two games as well to wrap up the division.

[LegoDoom]

The difference is that Hurts would blame himself first. AJB said passing. That is not a leader or blaming himself.

It will be walked back by many, but AJB started this. There are at least a few videos of coaches and players trying to hold AJB back, even before this year, so I don't see how he is a leader.

I see it as Jalen trying to give everyone their piece of the offense. If you want to dispute that, then I am all ears.