Eagles 2022-2023 Season

[gmwannabe]

I don't like to hear that. he had a promising rookie season.

[bkeich]

We don't really have a NFL General thread, so...

Dolphins lose a 2023 1st pick and 2024 3rd rounder for tampering concerning Brady and Sean Payton. No punishment for trying to add Brady to the ownership group (and apparently playing was discussed), but apparently they also discussed him playing while he was semi-retired, which was a big no-no (he is still under contract to the Bucs)

Different sport, but I suspect the shenanigan's that the Sixers played with Harden's contract is going to cost them a 2nd rounder.

[phillychuck]

Back at practice today--the injury appears minor.

[allentown]

What surprises me is that after the Eagles have conducted OTAs and training camp in a manner to minimize injuries, we suddenly have 3 concussions in today's practice report. This wouldn't be unexpected after a preseason game, but in practice? And involving two offensive lineup.

[flyers19rw]

The game is in trouble. Too many of the guys are too big and too fast for it to be sustainable. A cynic might say that these guys come to camp out of shape and that's the reason for them getting injured. However we know that most of these players take being in shape much more seriously than they did a couple of decades ago. Still we see every team having players dropping like flies from various forms of serious injuries. Perhaps these dings are being reported now and they weren't in the past. None the less the rate is alarming.

[phillychuck]

Concussions are clearly being detected at much higher rates, which is good for the players. I'm not really worried about them, especially ones like Mailata and Dillard have, which were not detected at the time they occurred, and seem to be pretty mild. But what flyers said above is true--players are way too fast now, and too big. Can you imagine what a Jordan Davis would do to a 1960s center or guard who were generally in the 260-lb range?

Lots of kids now are playing flag football, that may be where we are headed in 20 years...

[LegoDoom]

Lots of kids now are playing flag football, that may be where we are headed in 20 years...

Somewhere Robert Edwards is advising against this, but at least his wasn't a head injury.

[xogfog]

My 53 Man Roster after first preseason game

QB (3) Hurts, Minshew, Sinnett
RB (4) Sanders, Scott, Gainwell, Huntley
WR (6) Brown, Smith, Watkins, Pascal, Reagor, Covey
TE (3) Geodert, Calcaterra, Stoll
OL (9) Mailata, Kelce, L. Johnson, Dickerson, Seumalo, Dillard, Jurgens, Opeta, Driscoll
DL (8) Cox, Hargrave, Sweat, Barnett, Davis, Williams, Graham, Jackson
LB (7) Reddick, Dean, White, Edwards, Bradley, Taylor, P. Johnson
CB (6) Slay, Bradberry, Maddox, McPhearson, Scott, Jobe
S (4) Harris, Epps, Tartt, Wallace
K Elliot
P Siposs
LS Lovato

IR - TBD

PUP - TE Jackson, OL Toth

Covid -TBD

Practice Squad (players protected week 1 are in bold, players elevated for week 1 in bold/italics) - WR Hightower, WR Allen, OL Awosika, OL Clark, LB Stevens, LB K. Johnson, DT Wilson, DT Tuipulotu, TE Rodgers, CB McCain, CB Chachere, CB Gowan, CB Vincet Jr., S Blankenship, QB Strong, RB Brooks, DE Leo (does not count towards total),

[gmwannabe]

X that looks like a darn good roster. best in a few years. but don't think Strong will pass through waivers. maybe brooks won't either.
gm

[xogfog]

I'd rather keep Strong than Sinnett, but Strong has looked awful so far in camp. It is also possible the Eagles only keep 2 QB. In either case the practice squad doesn't get set until week 1 and they could protect Strong from being poached if they put him on the activated for gameday list, I think the rules are that they could only do that 4 times, so I would rather put Strong on the 53 and Sinnett on the practice squad. Strong did not get into the game this weekend, hopefully he gets the 2nd half in the next game. If he doesn't, then he probably will be on the practice squad or claimed by another team. I'm interested to see what the Panthers do with Matt Corral, I'd try to poach him if they don't protect him.

[bkeich]

Good list, but I assume we pick up a few players off someone else's waiver wire for the Practice squad also (and probably lose Strong if we try and sneak him through). Stinnet seems more of a chance to sneak through and then maybe try to demote Strong later in the year when teams are tight on the roster due to injuries.

I can see us adding A LB and a safety from someone cuts, those still seems like where we are weakest (maybe RB, maybe even Howard later in the year)

[phillychuck]

Sinnet has been excellent in practice (according to the beat writers) and Strong has been historically bad. My guess is either they keep Sinnett or go with 2 QBs (unless Strong shows something in the next two weeks).

Rumors from camp indicate they would like to keep both Kyron Johnson and Chachere, and both might make the 53-man roster. I also think they'd like to keep 10 OL, but it's hard to make a cut elsewhere to do that. Maybe Tart doesn't make the team, or Wallace. Wallace had a terrible first couple of weeks, but recently the writers have reported that he's playing better. Both of these guys are pretty much pure 'box' safeties, and Gannon reportedly does not see a role for pure box players.

[xogfog]

I disagree they are weak at LB, Edwards, White and Dean look really good and a healthy Taylor should be a plus too. Bradley is a good backup and special team player, and Reddick and P. Johnson are good at the SAM.

[phillychuck]

Agree, this is the best linebacking group we've had since the Buddy Ryan years.

[allentown]

Agree. Kyzir and Nakobe are big additions, now and going forward. The chances of strengthening this position from another team's released players seems close to nil.

Strong was downgraded on draft day because of injuries. He may not be anywhere near 100% now. I like what the Eagles did during off-season, both draft and signings. We have improved on both O and D. The 53-man roster will be solid.

[bkeich]

I disagree they are weak at LB, Edwards, White and Dean look really good and a healthy Taylor should be a plus too. Bradley is a good backup and special team player, and Reddick and P. Johnson are good at the SAM.

But the other thing to keep in mind is that there have rumors of them playing more 3-4 and hybrid defenses. Although I think this is crazy with the DT's we have, we will actually need MORE play this year from our LBs.

Dean is exciting, but may be more of a project than we realized on draft day. Dont get me wrong, I am REALLY excited for this guy, I am just not sure he will contribute as much as we may have thought this year. Edwards is what he is, he is really just a little better than a journeyman, he is a marginal starter in the NFL, not a top player. White is a good player, but somewhat limited by his size. Reddick really is a DE in a LB role, not a bad thing, but he also is not the strongest against the run.

I agree, this is the best LB corps we have had in a long time, but honestly our LBs the last few years have been almost laughably bad. I dont think it is a team strength, especially if you are looking to play some hybrid defenses where you need more of them (2-4 formations, etc.).

When I said we needed to add, I wasnt really thinking of White, Reddick and Edwards, etc., I was thinking more of depth. Taylor is still an interesting prospect, but he is still not even an average LB probably, he is still learning. We need depth, that is why I was saying it is a position to add from the cuts.

[bkeich]

I like what the Eagles did during off-season, both draft and signings. We have improved on both O and D. The 53-man roster will be solid.

I think this is the best offseason we have had since 2018. During that seasone we didnt realize it was as great until the season happened.

The moves this offseason are frankly "Executive of the Year" level. I hope it pans out that way, it doesnt always, but no one can say that Howie had a bad offseason.

[allentown]

When I said we needed to add, I wasnt really thinking of White, Reddick and Edwards, etc., I was thinking more of depth. Taylor is still an interesting prospect, but he is still not even an average LB probably, he is still learning. We need depth, that is why I was saying it is a position to add from the cuts.

Yes, Taylor is both very promising and not yet an average NFLstarting linebacker. But... what half-way competent NFL coach/GM releases an NFL-average starting linebacker? We are past the off-season period of cutting guys to save cap $. Taylor is very good quality for a depth linebacker.

[LegoDoom]

Taylor can be a special teams player at worst. At best, the Eagles need his speed at LB.

[bkeich]

Oh, I wouldn't cut Taylor. No way. I just meant that is a position I would either take a flyer on some young player that gets cut due to roster limits or look to a veteran to add another LB to the room (probably the former). I still think it is a position where we need more play from, particularly because we might have 4 LB's out there at times (different than past years where we had 2-3)