Eagles 2022-2023 Season

[zambonir]

McCarthy is not a great coach but if Sirrianni wins as many games as McCarthy did he might last just as long.

[LegoDoom]

And that would be unfortunate. McCarthy won so many games because Rodgers is a HoF QB. You either have a QB or you don't. It took McVay, who is a good coach, 2 #1 QB picks and an elite defense to win a SB.

The Eagles got a steal in Hurts. They have a top 5 OL, really good WRs, and an upgraded defense. I don't think talent is the problem.

If you replace Hurts (by giving up a lot of picks) and Sirianni isn't the right coach, then you are looking at a lot of bad football for a while.

[zambonir]

I am not sure why this is even a conversation. We are on Game 2 of a second-year coach and a second-year QB with a team that is already rebuilding faster than expected (IMO). But regardless I don't see how you can separate Hurts and Sirianni at this point in time. If Hurts succeeds and the team succeeds that will have happened under this coach and neither of them will be going anywhere. If not, one or both of them will be gone and my personal feeling is just that the front office is more invested in the coach.

But right now, I don't think we've seen enough of either to really be able to guess how that might play out. Let's actually see. If we're sitting here on January 1 lamenting a seven-win team it will be one conversation. And if we are celebrating an NFC East title it will be another one. Maybe in the latter scenario if they fall short of a Super Bowl in 2024.

I also don't think that, if they decide Hurts isn't the guy, they'll be giving up a bunch of draft picks for whoever the next Russell Wilson is. .They will either draft a QB this year or get veteran (or both).

Full disclose: I'm not that big an Eagles fan. This is a Phillies board. They won a Super Bowl not that long ago and only just fired the coach who did that a year ago. By the standard of Philadelpha sports I'm certainly not expecting another championship so fast!

[allentown]

The guy on the hot seat is Gannon. He and his prevent defense almost cost a game, squandering a fat lead. Whenever he goes to this defense, even mediocre QBs complete around 80% of passes and are unstoppable. From what I've seen of him in Philly, I'm amazed that the media viewed him as a strong head coach candidate in the off-season. Really a shame he didn't land a job in our division.

[LegoDoom]

The issue is that you don't know if Hurts is the guy or if Sirianni is the guy. You definitely have to separate them to make a decision. IMO, we have a lot more of Hurts information than we do of Sirianni. If you want to say that the Hurts info proves he's not the QB, then I will slightly disagree, but I understand where that comes from. All the team has invested in Sirianni is money (and I guess you could say the time for Hurts, or a new QB, to learn a new system). To make a switch at QB involves much more team capital than to replace the coach.

I know there are outliers in football, but to draft a franchise QB you really want to be in the top 5. The Eagles just aren't that bad of a team and it will either take a lot of players/picks/money to get there or they will have to be really bad for a few years.

That was a good post, btw.

EDIT: This also isn't the worst year to draft a QB, but my initial thought would be to draft some players that normally wouldn't slide in a non-QB year (like last year).

EDIT #2: The is Hurts' 3rd year. You have to make a decision on Hurts after the year. He was a 2nd round pick so next year will be the last on his rookie contract.

[LegoDoom]

I don't like Gannon, but I'm not sure the offense is much better considering the talent.

[bkeich]

This is a game that scares me. Vikings have a solid offense, and although Cousins isn't great he will kill anyone that gives him time to throw. Gannon had no idea what he is doing and will once again sit back and let Cousins throw, which is playing exactly into his game.

This is going to be a high scoring game. Vikes D is questionable and our D is talented but until they bring in someone who understands the modern game we will give up huge amounts of yards.

[phillychuck]

If they play a 5-2 front they have a chance to get some pressure, either sending all 5 or by confusing the Vikes' offensive line. They played SO SO many snaps vs the Vikings in a 4-2 nickel last week it begged them to run the ball. And Hargrove was clearly not ready to play; he got pushed all over by the interior of the Lions' line.

[LegoDoom]

Covey and Togiai again elevated from the PS for tonight.

[zambonir]

Well everybody looks like "the answer" so far tonight!

[allentown]

A very satisfying win. Good to see the changed defensive approach. Hope Slay is okay after his monstrous game. It looked like he tripped over a player.

[bkeich]

Was at the game tonight, crowd was crazy but fun and well behaved. My brother in law is a lifetime Vikings Fan, and he got ALOT of comments about his Jersey, but it was all good natured.

I have never been to anything where the crowd was 99% for one team. I think there were fewer than 100 Vikings Fans.

Hurts had a great game, he did a much better job spreading the ball around, but he still needs to be more selective about his running. Great game.

Slay had a great game in stats, but honestly he should have won the defensive player of the Year today, he could have had 4-6 picks. Why they kept throwing in his direction is a mystery, he had Cousins number.

Gannon kept the game interesting by not blitzing. When he finally did it worked great. He is the most foolishly conservative coach I have ever seen.

[bkeich]

If the season ended today (which would be very odd) the Eagles would be the #1 seed in the NFC through tie breakers.

Hopefully this stays true, since they are clearly going 17-0 the tie breakers shouldn't be needed in the end.

[bkeich]

Twice last night the Eagles crowd broke into "MVP" cheer. The crowd seems to think that the question of whether Hurts is an NFL QB has been decided. I agree, we DO NOT need to spend our picks next year on a replacement. We do however need some DE's.

[bkeich]

Not really mentioned, but Siposs made a great play last night. On the blocked field goal he made a textbook tackle from behind on a much faster guy, who was going to score easily if not for his effort and intelligence to track the play perfectly to cutoff the returner.
Had he had scored on that blocked FG that might have changed the momentum.
Big, big play that wasn't even mentioned by the completely inept Broadcadt team of Buck and Aikman. How many times during this game did they announce the wrong player or wrong team on a play? I counted at least 5 times (gave Lavato credit for a tackle when it was Minnesota's long snapper, had Sanders being a valuable member of the Vikings, etc)

[bkeich]

I think we can't elevate Covey any more this season, so I wonder if he gets promoted or does someone else return punts (Watkins?).

It didn't seem like anyone got hurt to free up a roster spot. Maybe they try to sneak Book onto the PS?

[Docs]

They can elevate each player 3 times in the season without restrictions, so Covey is good for one more game.

[Docs]

I feel like the Eagles still have a roster spot open on the 53 unless Jarrid Williams is on the 53. Everything that I have seen has him being added to the practice squad. They have placed two players on IR - Dillard and Barnett, and only signed DE Janarius Robinson from the Minnesota practice squad. It would be interesting to see what the Eagles real intentions with Robinson are too.

[phillychuck]

Siposs is faster than you think. Played Aussie rules football and rugby; that requires athleticism for sure.

[xogfog]

Covey has one more game where he can be elevated, the rule this year is three times.