Eagles 2021 Offseason

[zambonir]

Seems pretty likely the Eagles end up with a QB who is not yet here, whether a #3 or someone better than Flacco.

Difference with the Phillies is they didn't trade a Wentz or fire Girardi. They needed to try and win. The Eagles don't need a rebuild or a "process," but they could definitely use one year at the bottom.

[phillychuck]

Every team in the NFL has depth issues. The Eagles are OK at nickel corner, Josiah Scott is a good nickel and has played as well as Maddox in camp. They would be better with a more experienced #3 outside CB, but McPhearson has promise and Jaquette has size and length and has played decently well in preseason. There aren't many teams with #3 and #4 CBs who can play. They are surprisingly solid in the front 7 on defense.

I'm sort of with Squire this year, I think if they are at all healthy they will surprise people.

I do think they should have signed a better #2 QB, but maybe Flacco won't be needed or will play better than I expect him to. I absolutely think they are fully "all in" on Flacco as #2 this season.

[Squire]

I'd also add that the notion that Hurts has been bad in camp is debatable. There were definitely negative comments during the opening week but it seems like he has been really quite good since that first week and in both cases clearly won the scrimmages.

[bkeich]

Hurts needed more than 7 passes in the preseason. I would have played him for 2 series to one half. I know there is injury risk, but it is actually 2 weeks until the season. Worth the risk IMhO, but only if you put the 1st team OL out there also.

Boston Scott cleared up any talk about him not making the team away early. Swing pass for long TD where he completely faked out the Jets 2nd / 3rd team safety. Scott is just a fun player, not a starter, but he may very well have a 10 year career.

Every time I see the clips of practice it occurs to me that Sirianni’s future might be as a great position coach. That is really what he seems like he wants to do. Reid had to learn to stop being a QB coach, I think Nick is going to have to learn to not be a WR coach. Hope he can do it. Guy seems very like able and high energy.

I hope Sirianni is our Head Coach for 15 years (because it means success), but if not can we PLEASE hurry a Head Coach with EXPERIENCE. our Owner has now hired 5 HC and none of them had 1 day of NFL HC experience.

TY McGill deserves a roster spot. He just keeps making plays when he is on the field. Hard to find a spot for him, but he does everything he can to hang around. He is always going to have Pro Bowl week off, but he is a solid backup DL.

Sucks that Davion Taylor missed the entire camp. He needs it. I wonder if he is cut ior put in IR. Really hard to just give him a roster spot.

I’m old and times have changed. Is there anyone in the NFL who isn’t covered in tattoo’s? I was watching an old Barney Miller recently snd had to explain to my wife that Tattooing was illegal in the 70s (inNYC). Seems odd now.

Reagor has to be a little worried that he was playing this week and no other starter on offense was. I think there is a message there, “ you are not securely #2”. He needs to show something, he has been very disappointing so far.

After the personal foul where Gainwell was dumped late the Eagles ran a near perfect trap run with Gainwell. Driscoll absolutely buried some guy for an easy 10 yard run.

Gainwell was great. The 2nd drive of the game was almost all him, and he had a very strong drive. Ripped off play after play.

Flacco ran a few times. I am almost that fast. He is smart when he runs, but it sure isn’t pretty.

Can JJAW make the team as a Special Teams player? At least he is trying and hustling. He isn’t even being given a chance as a WR anymore. Nice TD before half, but was not part of the 2nd team reps at all.

I wonder if Siposs has won the kickoff duties? No way to know, could just be that Elliot is still a little gimpy.

Review umpire is not ready fir the season. Gave Seymour a turnover that was laughably wrong. I hope we have this type of luck when it matters.

It is very obvious why Mullens was available. He really is not good at all, I wonder if we aren’t going to poach some guy off another teams cuts / PS.

Holyfield is built so much like his Dad. I wouldn’t even look in his direction if he walked by incase he mistook it for aggression. I think he might have spent some time in the gym with weights.

Every time they show Maliata I am shocked at how big he is. They announced his testing stats this year… 6’8”, 336 lbs, 18% body fat. How much freaking muscle does that equate to? 250lbs of muscle?

Andrew Adams might be in trouble. He has shown up a few times on the wrong side of plays.

I am guessing Fulham gets cut. Surprising, but he has had a horrendous preseason. The fumble and touchback may have been the final straw.

Ahh, need to practice Hail Mary Defense a lot more. Watching doesn’t work.

[bkeich]

Eagles get Minshew for a conditional 6th round pick and mercifully release Mullens

[BostonRoss]

Thanks for the Barney Miller shout out. That was the best show ever (even if they occasionally took a New Yorker swipe at Philadelphia).

Wojo: What’s anarchy?
Nick: It’s when everyone runs around doing whatever they want. Like the Jets.

[Squire]

Irrespective of his inability to cover anyone, has anyone noted that if Michael Jacquet just falls down on the fumble instead of running it in for a TD with a minute left, the Eagles run out the clock and win the game? I really have no tolerance for football math stupidity.

[Squire]

I really don't understand the Roster Injury Rules. Do guys like Rodney McLeod, Landon Dickerson and Tyree Jackson need to be added to the 53 man roster while everyone else goes through waivers?

[phillychuck]

McLeod and Dickerson can continue on the NFI list, but unless they are on the 53, they can't play until after week 6. If the Eagles want them to play prior to week 6 they must use a 53-man spot on them at cut-down.

Eagles can IR Jackson, but then he is ineligible for the entire season, and cannot practice with the team, either (basically a non-practicing red-shirt year). They could put Jackson on the 53, cut Rodgers, and bring Rodgers back in week 2 if he's not claimed (which he probably would not be) and IR Jackson at that point for a minimum of 6 weeks. There are several veteran back-ups who could probably be cut with a tacit agreement to resign them after week 1 (when their salaries are not fully guaranteed). Howard, McGill, and Ridgeway seem to fit that description along with Rodgers..

[zambonir]

Was just reading Sports Illustrated's preview issue, which is obviously not what it used to be these days. But FWIW they pick the Eagles to go 3-14. Drafting 2nd or 3rd (after Texans and Bengals).

It says that best-case, they stink but Hurts is good enough (thus freeing up more draft or trade options), worst-case he's no good either.

They actually have the rest of the division with winning records, Cowboys at the top.

The Dak Prescot profile is actually excellent. They're still good at that sort of thing.

[xogfog]

If the offensive and defensive lines stay relatively healthy, they will be much better than 3-14, I have them at 8-9 behind the Cowboys and Redskins.

[zambonir]

Well, if that's the case I guess they won't need the high draft pick for a quarterback. But that also seems like a lot of faith in a first-year coaching staff. And in health as well.

Over/under in Oregon is 6.5, I wouldn't touch that with real money either way. But the under seems like the stronger better (i.e. I can more easily imagine them winning 4, 5 or 6 games than 7 or 8).

[phillychuck]

Eagles cut 5 camp bodies including Elijah Holyfield. All are eligible for the 16-man practice squad later, of course. Minshew in as QB 3 for a late-round draft pick.

[phillychuck]

Roster prediction for Tuesday...

Not so much a prediction as what I would do...first week players listed, then candidates for call-back or protection in parens. Practice Squad in braces[].

QB-3: Hurts, Flacco, Minshew
RB-3: Sanders, Gainwell, Scott (Howard, Huntley)
WR-4: Smith, Reagor, Watkins, Ward (Fulgham, JJAW) [Hightower, Patton]
TE-3: Ertz, Goedert, Stoll (Ty.Jackson to IR before cut down, Rodgers)
OL-10: Mailata, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Dillard, Dickerson, Awosika, Clark, Driscoll (Toth, Herbig)

Offense 23

Teams-3: Elliot, Siposs, Lovato

DL-8: Barnett, Sweat, Cox, Hargrave, Graham, Kerrigan, Williams, Ta. ackson (McGill)
LB-8: Wilson, Singleton, Edwards, Bradley, Taylor, Stevens, Avery, Johnson
CB-6 : Slay, Nelson, Maddox, McPherson, Scott, Seymour
S-5 : McLeod, Harris, Wallace, Epps, Adams

Defense 27 (for now, a couple will be IR'ed and an offensive player or two brought back.)

You can't risk losing Stoll, Ty.Jackson, Awosika, Johnson, Ta.Jackson, and Stevens--keep them and play roster roulette 24 hours after the deadline by IR'ing couple of them and bringing back a couple of vets (either yours or guys you like on the wire. Big point here--it makes absolutely no sense to NOT IR Jackson for the year...he's not helping this year, especially if Ertz isn't traded, and even if he is, Rodgers will come back after the trade. You risk Stoll, who looks like a decent #2 tight end next year or in '23. This cut down is about '22, not '21. Seymour might get replaced by a wire pick-up at CB.

[xogfog]

If you move TY Jackson to IR before cuts, he would be out for the year. If you keep him on the 53 until after week one, then the can IR him for 8 weeks, They'll have to risk putting Stoll on the practice squad and hope they can cut Rodgers and bring him back after putting Jackson on the IR.

I don't think they will keep 8 LB, Johnson is going to the practice squad, Avery is hurt and might not make it past cuts. As for WR, I think they will keep 5. I have a funny feeling Hightower makes it over Fulgram and Ward could be a surprise cut in favor of JJAW. They will also keep 4 running backs, with Howard on the 53 and Huntley on the practice squad.

[phillychuck]

TY Jackson wil not help the team this season, even if healthy. With Ertz and Goedert both on the team, Rodgers will be re-signed as the #3 and will get the majority of the snaps there. As of today, Stoll is more able to be the back-up #3 than Jackson, who is still a project and makes assignment mistakes and misses blocks. If you IR him now and essentially red-shirt him, you not only have a more stable TE position, you open up a roster spot for someone you would have to get through waivers to move to the practice squad. It doesn't make sense not to IR him just because he might have a role in weeks 10-17 or so if there is an injury disaster at TE. The only way I would not IR TY Jackson is if they trader Ertz today or tomorrow.

[nycphils]

If you IR Jackson immediately, he can’t practice the rest of the year. Based on what I read, expect he will make the 53 and then be IR’d so he is eligible to practice with the team. He won’t develop without practice, and his upside seems high enough to warrant it.

[nycphils]

I see the Colts have lost their backup LT (Eric Fisher already injured, of course) and one of their potential backups - Jacob Eason will be playing if/when Wentz is out.

I’m all for shipping them Flacco and Dillard for a 5th Rd pick and removing the conditions from this year’s Colts first rounder that we own!

[rkeden]

Vikings starting tight end being operated on also. The market for TEs is growing rapidly.

[bkeich]

I sometimes wonder if Goedert isn’t also being shopped in the market for the right deal. He really might want to play in Dallas, he is an UFA after this season and will probably get a big deal that I am not sure we want to offer given our Salary Cap restrictions (not as bad next year, but still existing).

I can’t help but notice that there is no talk of an extension (at least in the news). Hard to know what to make of Goedert since he has not been the #1 TE until now (and even now Ertz May still take the spot back).