Eagles 2021-2022 Season

[phillychuck]

And PC also called me a negadelphian, which isn't even true. No issue against that?

Read it again, I didn't call you a negadelphian. I said what you were saying was negadelphian BS, which is not the same thing. I addressed your argument, not you.

[andyb]

The term is kind of personal though. Hard to have a negadelphian argument without being one implicitly. You could have just said "negative BS" if you were just referring to the argument.

[allentown]

The Eagles also won with their back-up QB. The Eagles also lost some early season games, due largely to coaches' strategies on both O and D, which have been largely abandoned.

I agree that the Eagles could profitably focus on D in the first two rounds. Reagor seems to finally be improving, which lessens the need for a WR. We need to add to OL, but that can be done after round 2. I'd be fine if they found a DE, LB, S, CB in first two rounds. Problem here is Howie isn't at all good at drafting DBs, has really had better luck with them in later rounds than first 3.

I wouldn't trade Minshew before the draft. Same with Dillard. Minshew, along with Hurts and an even cheaper #3 QB, allows us the salary space to sign a major FA. If the major FA is a DB, then one of the 4 early picks can be a DT.

[gmwannabe]

i don't know if i would trade Dillard. after a slow start to his career he has shown he can play the LT position. only if you get at least a 3rd maybe.
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[Docs]

I like Dillard, however, the Eagles already have committed to a LT that will take most of the snaps and Dillard is only signed through 2022 season. If Dillard can start in the NFL, he will get more money from another team when his contract is up, and if he is not going to sign another contract to stay in Philly, trading him for something is better than losing him for nothing.

[Docs]

Chiming in on other topics over the last 24 hours, I would agree that the Eagles streak right now has more to do with the competition rather than coaches figuring things out, but on the other hand, at least they are not losing to terrible teams. The Giants loss was a terrible game. The Lions game, the Jets game and WFT game didn't really tell me anything about Hurts or this team. The teams that are in constant rebuild mode also develop losing cultures, which seems hard to shake.

I'm still not sold on gannon as the DC, and someone pointed out earlier that he doesn't have the players to play in his system. To me, that is a red flag when a coach has a game plan that doesn't fit the players or the game. The best coaches recognize what they have and don't have, and game plan accordingly rather than trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Draft picks and drafts: I personally think the Eagles lack depth due to poor drafting, outside of the 2021 draft, I'm not impressed with any drafts since 2013. I hope that 2021 is the start to a new trend of better drafting going forward. And its a shame that the Dolphins and Colts turned their season around, because it would have been a fun season if the Eagles made the playoffs, while also getting two top ten picks. I posted this in a Phillies thread, it has been fun rooting against another team for draft pick purposes, and the NFL could solve their tanking problem if they made a rule requiring teams to trade their first round picks before the season started. No incentive for teams to tank, no conflicting feelings from the fan base, and GMs have to earn their paychecks deciding on appropriate value for their own picks.

[phillychuck]

Regarding the off-season:

I want a physically dominant WR in free agency...someone like prime Alshon, who is open whenever he's single-covered.

I'd also take an established edge rusher.

Then draft mostly defense in the first two rounds, and trade one of the first-round picks for a first-rounder next season.

Take a stud O-lineman if a can't miss guy falls to you, otherwise draft one in the later rounds. I'd look at a right tackle figuring Lane isn't going to play that much longer.

Regarding how good the team is, I've sort of had my say. I think they are a slightly above average team that can be difficult for an opposing defense to handle when they are running the ball and Hurts isn't "off" too much. The problem in the playoffs will be whether or not the defense can change the way they played earlier in the season versus good QBs--they won't win if the other QB completes 80% of his passes. That's on Gannon. I think Gannon has to disguise coverages and bring pressure in tricky ways for them to win, but who knows if he will do that.

To be fair, if Sanders and Howard are both out for the WFT game, playoffs are much less likely.

[bkeich]

I hate to say it, but I would look to move one of the 1st round picks. A 3rd this year and a first next year for one of our picks. Next year should be better, but I still don’t see much of a path to elite status in one year, and the more we can get, the better.

The other reason is looking down the line, you don’t want to have 3 former first round picks you want to resign all in one year, better to spread it out.

Ok, now everyone disagrees

[phillychuck]

I agree with moving one of the first round picks...a 2022 third and a 2023 first would be a great value.

[bkeich]

Honestly, that is already one more person than I thought would agree with me

[zambonir]

I imagine they will move one of the picks. Pushing it to next year makes some sense but a two-for-one to move up this year is also possible (would have to be pretty high, otherwise probably not necessary).

To me the Gannon thing is just another indication that this was supposed to be a rebuilding season. They could have made a plug-and-play hire.

[bkox]

Nick:

Miles has broken hand: "Out this week, then we'll re-evaluate. Hopeful we can get him back at some point this season. Not going on IR."

Jordan Howard "MRI came back good, we're hopeful"

Nate Herbig [knee sprain] and K'Von [hip] are fine.

Nothing new on Brandon Brooks.

— Reuben Frank ( @RoobNBCS ) December 27, 2021

[zambonir]

Eagles only played 3 playoff teams in 2017 (went 2-1). I don’t remember people complaining that they didn’t beat enough good teams.

— Mike Mulhern ( @MikeyMuls ) December 28, 2021

[gmwannabe]

All i wanted for this year was improvement for the team and for hurts to show growth AND 3 high first round draft picks. i see 2 out of 3 and am real disappointed in the draft situation. All picks are going to be in the 20's. Hell with it. i've changed my wants, let the eagles go all the way and play either Indy or Miami in the SB.
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[xogfog]

With the Saints loss last night, the The Eagles are alone at 8-7 and in the 7th and final spot for the playoffs. They can actually clinch a playoff spot next week if the following occurs:

Eagles beat WFT - likely
Packers beat Vikings - likely
49ers beat Texans OR Panthers beat Saints - possible one of those two happen

So the chances are pretty good the Eagles will make the playoffs.

[xogfog]

On the flip side, with the Dolphins win last night and the Colts win on Saturday the Eagles draft picks next year are devalued substantially, they may end up with three picks in the 20-30 range.

[zambonir]

Seems very possible Eagles end up with 6th seed even, which may not be a good thing. I mean, there's no easy game but I think playing Dallas would be most fun, and familiarity factor could be an advantage. The last game may end up being about seeding for both teams, with neither team sure what it might prefer. Or it could still be must-win for Eagles.

Three picks that are 19th and higher probably makes a trade far more likely. Regardless of direction/year.

[gmwannabe]

I'm watching the Houston bowl game. not sure if he will come out or not but, this Toon QB from Houston looks very good. i'd consider him as a later pick if he would last
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[gmwannabe]

Tune, sorry. spell check.

[zambonir]

Wentz with perfect timing (from the Eagles' POV) for once.

Colts put unvaccinated QB Wentz on COVID list