(OT) Penn State Football - James Franklin no longer

[zambonir]

DC who has been with him since Toledo likely to come along.

Analyzing Iowa State staffers who could join Matt Campbell at Penn State,...

Report: Matt Campbell Set To Make Roughly $10 Million Per Season At Penn State

He was making $5M at ISU. Franklin was making around $7M. I think that's the # BYU had to match to keep Sitake.

[zambonir]

Kind of sweet, really. Ole Miss former HC coming back there as DC too, but this doesn't happen with anyone other than Franklin.

Sources: Fired Pry hired back by Va. Tech as DC

[zambonir]

Iowa State players voted not to take a bowl bid which is probably good news for PSU (even if they can't technically be recruited until January).

Iowa St., K-State skip bowls, owe Big 12 $500K

[bigegypt0417]

The ISU fanbase is less than excited.

Or this...

Iowa State Cyclones Lose Multiple Staff Members Following Matt Campbell to Penn State https://share.google/m0RKkBKwBBLvkPscU

[Lucky_Beagle]

Campbell arrived at the airport in State College today

[zambonir]

It was always gonna be brutal for ISU, but overall they have to appreciate what he built there. It's gotta be harder now, to look at Indiana and Texas Tech and think, "why can't that be us?" versus the old model where you really did have to leave for one of 10 or 15 big schools to be a national power.

It's been brutal for Penn State too, but they picked that.

And even more brutal for Washington State, which got a great FCS coach and will finally be in a real conference again next year, but he left after one season for ISU.

Interesting in that link about the ISU DC, that it's not certain he'll have the same job at PSU. Could they keep Knowles on?

Pitt did indeed end up being too good for the Bronx, it's Penn State-Clemson in the Pinstripe. The "we used to be big-time" bowl.

[zambonir]

5-7 Temple has turned down a bowl bid, as has Rutgers, Auburn, Baylor and others. This is another big change. Time was you always wanted to do it just for the extra practice time for next year's team, but who knows if you even have next year's team? And while the bowls had started creating financial incentives to get players to not opt out. the players don't really need that anymore.

I guess I was wrong about PItt going to a better bowl, they went to the Military Bowl which is the last one in the ACC tier. Guess Pinstripe wanted more regional diversity, and Clemson's greater pedigree in recent years.

[bigegypt0417]

In thinking about it...I think Penn State and those who love the program have to credit Terry Smith for that he did in what was almost a no-win situation. He was able to right the ship and was a whisker from beating the #1 team in the country.

Obviously he got this payday but at the end of the day he earned that money.

[bigegypt0417]

Notre Dame turning down a bowl game seems petty...i get it...they were snubbed but just opting out altogether is wild...

But don't worry...they basically put together a schedule next year with maybe 1 possible tough game on it and only 3 road games?

Just join a conference and end it all.

[zambonir]

Yup if they were actually in the ACC they would have been in.

But I don't think it's just petty. Bowls are supposed to be fun and a reward for the players but if 25% of your players are going to opt out and another 25% of next year's players aren't enrolled yet and your coaches are better off spending December doing other things, why not? It's not like they are turning down the Orange Bowl (as delightful as the Pop-Tarts Bowl is).

Will still be interesting to see what Grunkmeyer does about the Pinstripe Bowl. And not just him.

[schillingfan]

Norte Dame has some good offensive players who expect to be drafted high and don’t want to be hurt. Players looking at the portal may feel the same way.

[zambonir]

All the teams that just missed the playoffs have guys who will opt out because of the draft or the portal. And BYU should be just as mad. It was a snit, at both the ACC and the CFP.

Bowls have often been money-losers for schools too. Probably cheaper for KSU and ISU to pay the $500K fine than travel somewhere. ND doesn't have to pay a fine because they're not in a conference.

Temple now says they were hoping to play but App State took the bid before they could reply.

[phillychuck]

Everyone seemingly loved Campbell’s press conference today. Won the presser, 1-0.

[jimbomill]

Notre Dame turning down a bowl game seems petty

Agree, they need some cheese to go with all that whining.

[andyb]

Maybe we should just go all the way to a 24-team playoff with no other bowl games. Or 32 teams with all 10 conference champions getting an automatic qualifier like the basketball tournament.

Bowls have been largely meaningless since we got the 4--team BCS playoff. Now they are a redshirt freshman transfer showcase where anyone with draft prospects should not play.

[Philsmania]

5-7 Temple has turned down a bowl bid, as has Rutgers, Auburn, Baylor and others. This is another big change. Time was you always wanted to do it just for the extra practice time for next year's team, but who knows if you even have next year's team? And while the bowls had started creating financial incentives to get players to not opt out. the players don't really need that anymore.

I guess I was wrong about PItt going to a better bowl, they went to the Military Bowl which is the last one in the ACC tier. Guess Pinstripe wanted more regional diversity, and Clemson's greater pedigree in recent years.

See also college basketball where many power conference teams snubbed by the NCAA Tournament now decline NIT bids and call it a season.

[zambonir]

The proposal is for 16 with some play-in games instead of conference tournaments, by the Big 10. SEC doesn't like it. And they still won't let in more than one non-power conference champion automatically. The 4th place SEC team or 2nd place ACC team would be in automaticaly ahead of a James Madison this year (though JMU still could have been one of the at-large teams, there would be three spots. Tulane still would have been in).

And of course the power conferences are still unwilling to give up their title games or their historic bowl ties. Get rid of the former and you could start the playoff earlier, have everyone play a home game, and still do the New Year's weekend in the traditional sites. And then be done sooner.

It all seems a bit overblown to me at this point. A 10-2 Notre Dame complaining about being 13th vs. when it was undefeated or one-loss teams getting screwed at #3 or #5 is still progress, and relative to the # of schools in the two sports, only slightly worse than when a 6th-place SEC basketball team gets left out as 69 or 70.

And, the same goes for the Pop Tarts Bowl or Alamo Bowl being a little less exciting. If you love College Football all those bowls are still fun to watch (and the ratings say so). But it's not really a big deal if a team or player skips them.

I'm sure some of the ND seniors will regret the decision, just as Drew Allar probably wishes he could play in the Pinstripe Bowl with his teammates one last time (but who knows if he would have were he healthy and preparing for the draft).

[bigegypt0417]

I'm impressed with Campbell so far....seems like a very good hire.

https://www.si.com/college/pennstate/football/why-penn-state-coach-matt-campbell-made-terry-smith-an-offer-he-could-not-refuse

[andyb]

Well, I do NOT like the proposals of guaranteed berths for the big conferences. If they go to 16 it should just be more at large berths. The Big 10 should not be guaranteed 4. The SEC might get 6 or 7 some years.

All these proposals from the large conferences that go beyond 16 are about guaranteed berths. If we went to 24 I might say we go up to the 8 best conference champions and then 16 more at large. 32 would be all 10 conferences (assuming they have a minimum number of teams like the Pac-8/10/12/16 is figuring out).

If I voted this year I would have had both Miami and Notre Dame in and Alabama out. Just not excited about the 5th best SEC team and Notre Dame has legitimately improved through the year to the point where they probably are better than Alabama.

[zambonir]

I agree, but I think at the end of the day you just accept that college football is changed forever and embrace the pro model where certain teams just get in regardless of record or quality because of the conference they are in. That is just never going to mean all the non-Power 4 schools, and no, it shouldn't mean 7th place teams either.

The problem is the SEC and the Big 10 run the show (along with ESPN). NCAA has no say. Group of Five (Six next year) has no say. Even ACC and Big 12 has little say. SEC hates the auto-bid proposal because they are (rightly) confident they can get five teams in every year without it, whereas Big 10 worries they might continue to get three (four being the number that would be guaranteed under their plan). But they are just never going to go to an FCS style bracket unless ESPN pushes for it. Then we'd just be watching horrible mismatches instead of meaningless but more compelling minor bowl games.

Pretty sure Texas is even better than Alabama at this point but they made their own bed. Notre Dame's losses were also close. And to two top teams. But they are a victim of their independence too. And ACC also screwed itself with its schedule and tiebreakers. Last year the championship game loser still got in, and Miami might have as well had they made it.

Unfortunately James Madison is likely to get hammered, and Tulane probably will in the second round even if they can beat Ole Miss (who already killed them in the regular season).