Looking ahead to the 2018 draft

LoneStarPhan 2017-10-01 02:13:13 UTC #334

Giants lose to San Diego, 3 to 2. CWS and Tigers are both leading in their games.

Tigers game over, Tigers win.

DurhamBull 2017-10-01 02:59:57 UTC #335

Tigers did their best to lose by having their starting LF pitch (and play all other positions) but they still managed to eke out a win.

Philsmania 2017-10-01 03:01:44 UTC #336

That Giant loss eliminates us from the 1-1 but the Tiger win coupled our loss keeps alive for #2.

zambonir 2017-10-01 03:02:39 UTC #337

is it over?

LoneStarPhan 2017-10-01 03:31:41 UTC #338

Close of play, September 30:

Giants 63-98 .391 ----
Tigers 64-97 .398 1.0 GB
Phillies 65-96 .404 2.0 GB
White Sox 67-94 .416 4.0 GB
Reds 67-94 .416 4.0 GB

Phillies clinch pick 1.3 with outside chance to tie the Tigers and take the 1.2 pick. The Tigers can still catch the Giants and win the tie breaker for 1.1 pick.

zambonir 2017-10-01 03:50:54 UTC #339

The loss tonight also prevents them from finishing over .500 after the All-Star break (they're 36-38)

nycphils 2017-10-01 11:59:29 UTC #340

Pretty remarkable to be around .500 in the second half, and really demonstrates just how wretched the team was in the first half.

Squire 2017-10-01 12:23:18 UTC #341

Pretty pumped about clinching no worse than 3.

jimbomill 2017-10-01 12:45:31 UTC #342

I had come over to CD's point of view on this, but we played too well and Detroit and SF just took bad to the next level down.
Still. 1.3 should be good if our scouts do there job and Leadership selects accordingly.

Philsmania 2017-10-01 15:02:42 UTC #343

Yes, we've clinched no worse than #3 where my gut says we now end up. It now looks like the White Sox will be the ones playing themselves down to #5. If not for a good stretch in August, the Reds could have been significant players in this race.

Philsmania 2017-10-01 15:14:52 UTC #345

According to the pythagorean formula, this is how the standings should look for the 1-1. The number in parenthesis is pythagorean luck.

Padres 59-102 -- (12)
Giants 66-95 7 (-3)
Tigers 67-94 8 (-3)
Tie Phillies 70-91 11 (-5)
Reds 70-91 11 (-3)
White Sox 70-91 11 (-3)
Mets 70-91 11 (0)

teabag259 2017-10-01 15:53:20 UTC #346

I'm still holding out hope for 1-2.

zambonir 2017-10-01 18:51:27 UTC #347

I'm hoping for 1-2 as well. I mean, obviously it would be better. You get to take all but one guy (and you never know if the 1-1 team will take the BPA), you get a bit more $, etc.

But not dropping to 4th is definitely a relief. Unfortunately the Phillies were last year's pythagoreaon losers.

schooldoc 2017-10-02 00:21:06 UTC #348

So, 1/3 it is.

I was one of the people who badly wanted 1/1. At the same time, I'm satisfied with 1/3 because right now, the Phils are nowhere near the 3rd worst team in baseball. They played .500 ball over a 2 1/2 month span and were only eliminated from 1/1 contention on the 2nd to last day of the season. That's pretty remarkable when you think about it. Shows you just how awful the Phils were in May/June. But the Tigers truly tanked it in Sept. and snuck past us.

Should be able to get a terrific pitcher at 1/3. That would be my hope.

teabag259 2017-10-02 00:57:11 UTC #349

Yes but at 1-3 that pitcher will probably have to be a high school pitcher.

allentown 2017-10-02 01:16:17 UTC #350

It is what it is. TIme to be happy with and make the most of 1.3. Hopefully a very long time before we have a pick as good as or better than this one.

nycphils 2017-10-02 01:31:36 UTC #351

Early wishcasting on the Top 3 picks:

Detroit - Brice Turang (SS)
Giants - Jarred Kelenic (OF)
Phils - Brady Singer (RHP)

Could happen.

zambonir 2017-10-02 02:12:19 UTC #352

I'm happy it's not 4.

Dirk41 2017-10-02 02:13:40 UTC #353

Best case scenario

nycphils 2017-10-02 05:56:31 UTC #354

Detroit - top 4 prospects are RHP, then 2 OF and a catcher. Nothing in the IF.

Giants - for those who want Singer, this is the issue - not much in the way of pitching in the top 1/3 of their Top 30 prospects