17 Philadelphia Phillies (J Thompson) @ Washington Nationals (M Scherzer)

Lucky_Beagle 2017-09-09 02:24:27 UTC #121

How often has a team lost a game when they hit 3 3-run HR's in a game?
Maybe they will score a couple more this inning and prevent it from happening?

kikutaro 2017-09-09 02:24:31 UTC #122

Doolittle relieved Kelley

LoneStarPhan 2017-09-09 02:25:27 UTC #123

What seemed a meaningless run given up by Neris in the bottom of the 8th is now looking pretty big.

kikutaro 2017-09-09 02:25:31 UTC #124

Joseph hit for Kim

Lucky_Beagle 2017-09-09 02:26:25 UTC #125

Almost as big as the runner through out at the plate a few innings ago!

kikutaro 2017-09-09 02:27:31 UTC #126

Tommy Joseph

Strike (looking)
Strike (foul)
Foul
Ball
Strike (swinging)
Joseph struck out swinging

Lucky_Beagle 2017-09-09 02:27:43 UTC #127

of course without the extra run Doolittle probably starts this inning as the pitcher and the first 3 batters may not have gotten on base

kikutaro 2017-09-09 02:29:01 UTC #128

Jorge Alfaro

Strike (swinging)
Strike (foul)
Strike (swinging)
Alfaro struck out swinging

LoneStarPhan 2017-09-09 02:29:35 UTC #129

Kim is 2 for 3 with a walk toPreformatted textnight. But we need Joseph to bat because ?????

kikutaro 2017-09-09 02:32:11 UTC #130

J.P. Crawford

Strike (swinging)
Strike (foul)
Foul
Foul
Ball
Ball
Foul
Strike (swinging)
Crawford struck out swinging

California_Dreamin 2017-09-09 02:33:07 UTC #131

LSP...remember I mentioned a few weeks ago that Gene Mauch always said you don't win 1 run games, you lose them. This one is the latest example of that belief having validity. Runners thrown out, errors on double play grounders, center fielders misplaying a ball. Not criticizing the Phils per se, just pointing out how little things so often turn 1 run wins into 1 run losses...and visa versa.

kikutaro 2017-09-09 02:33:23 UTC #132

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
PHI	3	0	0	0	0	1	3	0	3	10	14	2
WSH	1	1	4	1	0	3	0	1	x	11	16	0

Current Hitters

Philadelphia Phillies

Hitters	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG
C Hernandez 2B	5	1	1	0	0	0	.288	.360	.422
O Herrera CF	4	2	1	0	1	1	.290	.337	.467
R Hoskins 1B	4	3	2	3	1	2	.304	.418	.725
N Williams RF	5	2	4	3	0	1	.285	.341	.498
M Franco 3B	5	1	2	3	0	0	.224	.279	.392
H Kim LF	3	1	2	0	1	0	.247	.326	.325
T Joseph PH	1	0	0	0	0	1	.238	.288	.432
J Alfaro C	3	0	0	0	0	3	.338	.386	.462
J Crawford SS	5	0	2	1	0	1	.188	.188	.250
J Thompson P	1	0	0	0	0	1	.286	.286	.429
F Galvis PH	1	0	0	0	0	0	.257	.307	.390
Y Rios P	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000
H Milner P	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000
A Blanco PH	1	0	0	0	0	0	.194	.259	.295
H Neris P	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000
Totals	38	10	14	10	3	10

Washington Nationals

Hitters	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG
T Turner SS	4	2	3	3	1	0	.281	.333	.439
H Kendrick LF	4	2	2	0	0	0	.329	.384	.488
O Perez P	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000
M Albers P	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000
R Read PH	1	0	1	0	0	0	.500	.500	.500
B Kintzler P	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000
S Kelley P	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000
S Doolittle P	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000
D Murphy 2B	4	1	2	0	1	0	.322	.382	.550
R Zimmerman 1B	5	1	2	2	0	0	.303	.361	.562
A Rendon 3B	5	1	1	0	0	0	.302	.401	.537
M Wieters C	4	1	0	0	1	2	.233	.289	.353
M Taylor CF	5	2	4	5	0	0	.270	.318	.486
A De Aza LF	4	0	0	0	0	1	.163	.191	.256
M Scherzer P	2	0	0	0	0	0	.182	.237	.236
A Stevenson PH-LF	1	1	1	0	0	0	.184	.259	.224
R Bautista PH-RF	1	0	0	0	0	1	.267	.313	.267
Totals	40	11	16	10	3	4

Current Pitchers

Philadelphia Phillies

Pitchers	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	PC-ST	ERA
J Thompson	5.0	7	7	5	2	0	1	85-54	5.23
Y Rios	1.0	5	3	3	0	1	1	28-13	6.10
H Milner	1.0	2	0	0	1	1	0	22-12	1.93
H Neris	1.0	2	1	1	0	2	0	14-10	3.11
Totals	8.0	16	11	9	3	4	2	149-89

Washington Nationals

Pitchers	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	PC-ST	ERA
M Scherzer	6.0	6	4	4	3	7	1	104-71	2.32
O Perez	0.0	4	3	3	0	0	1	11-8	4.25
M Albers	1.0	1	0	0	0	0	0	17-11	1.68
B Kintzler	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	0	12-7	2.45
S Kelley	0.0	3	3	3	0	0	1	12-6	7.99
S Doolittle	1.0	0	0	0	0	3	0	16-13	2.25
Totals	9.0	14	10	10	3	10	3	172-116

Final

LoneStarPhan 2017-09-09 02:44:52 UTC #133

Wow, an interesting game. Another one that the Phillies come very close to winning. We will never know how it would have gone had Hernandez fielded a routing grounder and turned the routine double play in the third inning, but it sure seems like it would have been a no run, no hit inning for Thompson. Take the four runs the Nationals scored after Hernandez' error away and the outcome well could have been a win for the Phillies.

Some of the positives tonight:

Three 3 run home runs (Williams, Hoskins, Franco)
That alone is a good night.
Williams had 4 hits (4 for 5)
Hoskins goes 2 for 4 with a walk
Franco 2 for 5
Crawford gets two his (2 for 5) including a double

Sadly, the pitching left much to be desired.

Of course, a loss does keep the Phillies ahead for the 1.1 pick. I guess that is a little ray of positivity we can take from this and every loss.

CD is absolutely correct. Games are won/lost on a series of small things and tonight we saw that clearly. To me, I see a young team that I hope will soon move from being on the side of doing the small things that cost a win to doing the small things that result in a win. I think we can and will see a dramatic shift in W-L results next season.

But then, I always try to be optimistic.

California_Dreamin 2017-09-09 03:14:53 UTC #134

LSP...oh, a lot to be positive about tonight, a whole lot. This team, since Williams and then Hoskins showed up, has shown an impressive propensity for never letting a huge deficit get them down, they have shown great tenacity in rallying from way behind.

And this is an offense that still doesn't have Altherr back yet [best hitter on the team till he got hurt], Knapp is down and Kingery will add so much to this team next year when he comes up. Can you imagine if Cozens could ever figure it out? Sheesh.

If they get Machado, my gosh, they will have an offense to rival those of the Schmidt/Luzinski and Utley/Howard days.

One more thing worth noting. I have mentioned several times that Thompson, more than almost any of the young hurlers, seems particularly prone to falling apart when his defense does. If I can see it, I wonder why the Phils haven't? They need to put their absolutely BEST defensive lineup when he pitches until he gets to the point where he is confident enough in his talent that he can overcome it.

Look, I wish he was as mentally tough as Pivetta and Lively are, but he's not. But he does have talent, he is still very young, and he can be the guy who tips the Hamels deal scale way towards the Phillies way, especially if Hamels someday comes back to the team. Because for all his outstanding pitching since he went to Texas, and Hamels has been all they could have asked for, he has not delivered them even one playoff win, Darvish is now gone, and he talks more and more like he yearns to return home some day.

Williams looks like a future star, Eichoff will be fine, Alfaro looks like a future regular behind the plate and Thompson is the wild card which could make this trade everything we hoped for that exciting night in 2015 when it all came down.

LoneStarPhan 2017-09-09 03:45:44 UTC #135

I was pleased to see Hoskins get a couple hits including the 3 run home run. He has been so good that I can't help thinking he is too good to be true. He has a hitless game and I start to worry. Last night and his early at bats tonight, he went hitless. I guess I have seen so many prospects fail to become the all star level players that we thought they would become. Yes, I have been a Phillies phan for over 65 years, so I am use to failure.

Speaking of negativity, I couldn't help feeling it when Joseph came in to pinch hit for Kim in the ninth. Kim was 2 for 3 with a walk tonight, but he bats left handed, so bringing in Joseph logically makes some sense. Joseph has a better OPS than Kim and does lead the team in home runs and RBIs. That he now doesn't figure to be a regular starter speaks well for the young players who have displaced him. Anyway, before the first pitch to Joseph, I am thinking strikeout. I just have seen too many of his at bats where he doesn't come close to putting the ball in play, let alone get on base. Of course, he does get hits and has hit 21 home runs so far this year, but yet, I could just feel the strikeout coming. And sure enough, it did. I suspect Kim would have struck out as well, but somehow, it seems a player having a good game deserves the chance to bat.

Jeff05 2017-09-09 05:29:34 UTC #136

Regarding Jorge Alfaro's performance with the bat in the nineth, is it easy to break a bat in that manner?

Austinfan 2017-09-09 05:46:19 UTC #137

Thompson didn't fall apart, he gave up two well hit balls, one that Herrera misplayed, and the double by Turner.
Other than that it was GB singles, seeing eye bloops off jammed hitters, miscues by his infielders.
He deserved a better fate.
He is throwing harder, 92-93 t94 good slider and improving changeup.

gmwannabe 2017-09-09 12:32:29 UTC #138

i watched a little and thank goodness missed the lousy part of the game. good to hear that thompson is throwing better. i thought when i tuned in and saw the score that he was lit up. he certainly slows the game down when he is on the mound though. i had to keep myself from falling asleep early in the game. again, as i have said before, i was really excited when i heard he was included in the hamels trade. it would be a big help if he works out.
gm

DurhamBull 2017-09-09 14:00:23 UTC #139

Herrera really misplayed that ball that ended up being an inside-the-park grand slam. It was catchable. Despite the fact that he broke in and then had to reverse course, he almost caught it, but he just whiffed on it while jumping. Had he broken back instead of in, it probably would have been a semi-routine catch. It was deceptive off the bat -- didn't look like it was hit that hard, so I can see why he broke in.

Speaking of hard-hit balls, when watching the video of Hoskins' and Franco's respective HRs, Franco's swing looks vicious when compared to Hoskins', at least on those ABs. Franco's bat whipped around so fast. It makes for beautiful HRs, but I also wonder if swinging hard isn't contributing to his other woes at the plate.

Austinfan 2017-09-09 14:21:37 UTC #140

Stairs pointed that out last season, when Franco's helmet flies off, he's swinging too hard and pulling his head off the ball.
Problem for Franco like a lot of young hitters, is they think the harder they swing, the harder they'll hit the ball.
Hoskins has it down, a quick stroke and let the velocity of the pitch do most of the work, the key is getting the fat part of the bat on the ball at the proper angle.