2022 Phillies Spring Training

[bkeich]

Well Squire, if you are doing the minor league threads you should be able to create the #1 farm system, no one said you had to make links to reality, just have links with everyone hitting .400+ with 15% HR rates. You would fool me.

[zambonir]

Marchan called up and moved to the 60-day to clear room for Stott.

Unfortunate for him, but A) solves the problem and B) explains why it was never gonna be Sands.

[andyb]

I assume his injury is serious enough that the 60 days is a realistic estimate of when he is going to be back. Plus they can do rehab in AAA for the last portion of this anyway.

Biggest thing for the Phillies is this will cost them 60 days of major league salary (good for Marchan!) and then the luxury tax on that extra salary.

[julio]

Marchan called up and moved to the 60-day to clear room for Stott.

Unfortunate for him, but A) solves the problem and B) explains why it was never gonna be Sands.

I'm not sure I agree that this is "unfortunate" for Marchan. Yes, he loses some development time (assuming that he would have been able to play during this time); on the other hand, his salary jumps from $114,100 to $700,000.

Interesting commentary on the current management regime, IMHO. They just chose to incur an additional salary cost of up to a half-million dollars (depending on how long Marchan actually stays on the 60-day injured list), plus the CBT penalty associated with that, to avoid having to DFA a backup catcher or relief pitcher.

[zambonir]

Well yes, unfortunate he is injured badly enough to be shelved that long. Also unfortunate he can't improve his trade value or give the Phillies much information about his overall catching future for at least two months. But nice for his wallet!

And yeah, I don't suppose they would have done this had they not already exceeded the CBT. But having done so, this doesn't really goose it (either the threshold number or the penalty) much. Probably any given player on the 40 does have a cash value of $500K (vs. losing them to another organization for nothing), even if the bottom five seem fungible.

[julio]

I guess the thing for me is that they chose to spend money rather than DFA somebody. It just feels like different Broad & Pattison behavior than I have come to expect.

[bkeich]

So not sure what the rules are for the 60 day IR anymore. Can Marchand go to Clearwater and work out? Can he play in simulated games? Or is he forbidden from entering the facility for baseball activities?

[andyb]

Those were all lockout things. Anyone on the IL can work out at the team complex. Imagine he'll play a few games for Clearwater too at the start of his rehab before they send him north. Rehab assignments of 20 days (position players) or 30 days (pitchers) can also take place while he is on the IL so conceivably he could play in 40 days and be activated at the end of his rehab stint. He could probably play in extended Spring games in Clearwater too even before his formal rehab period.

[julio]

Minor thing: We all know what you meant, but it' the Injured List - not Injured Reserve. Some of you are bringing your NFL mindset to MLB?

[zambonir]

I guess the thing for me is that they chose to spend money rather than DFA somebody. It just feels like different Broad & Pattison behavior than I have come to expect.

Agreed, I just think the bigger choice - and more shocking choice - was made with Castellanos. Were they still below the CBT they probably don't do this (nor would it have been a good use of that money, modest though it is, if they did not intend to exceed it later in the season).

Minor thing: We all know what you meant, but it' the Injured List - not Injured Reserve. Some of you are bringing your NFL mindset to MLB?

I'm still gonna call it the DL anyway.

[julio]

I'm still gonna call it the DL anyway.

Yeah... I struggle with that, too! And in fairness to our NFL junkies, the change from Disabled List to Injured List has made it more challenging to keep the MLB vs. NFL jargon straight.

[EDmuch]

Moniak out 6 weeks with a broken hand. Sigh

[BaseballCat]

This is highly unfortunate for someone that was just about to click. We don't have many options of the 40 man that are ready / healthy. Muzziotti or Ortiz?

[phillychuck]

This is a good test for Moniak psychologically...some players get a woe-is-me mentality (fans are this way) and use injury as an excuse to fail; other players just come back with more determination. I'd love to see Moniak come back displaying the power he had in spring training and some more patience, too. I feel really sorry for him in the sense he was going to be an opening day starter in the majors, which would have been very exciting for his family and for him.

Camargo is theoretically an option in CF, too.

[Aquapong]

Damn. Bad break for him, no pun intended. Outfield getting thin. The decision to dfa Williams is already coming back to bite them.

[zambonir]

Williams was RH though, and not necessarily better in CF than Vierling (which is who made him redundant, including at other positions). Would have been an opportunity for Haseley though.

[andyb]

I am excited about Muzziotti. Remember he was in High A and had a decent year back in 2019. He should have been in AA in 2020 and AAA in 2021 on a normal development curve. He is bigger physically now (still only line drive power) and has improved his control of the strike zone. He'll add value to this team defensively even if he has a 600 OPS. He will be better than Moniak or Vierling out there. I am guessing he'll get a start Sunday. Vierling will start the opener and they face a LHP Saturday.